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zaTan	Posted: Apr 23 2007, 05:29 AM
Delivery Boy Group: Miembro Gerencia Posts: 1,346 Member No.: 2 Joined: 26-December 05	¿Cuál es tu top personal? cuales son tus 100 favoritos, o al menos la cantidad que llegues a alcanzar (Top 10, Top 25) (Aquí un top publicado por ahi: http://www.top100comics.de/list_complete.php?sorting=rank) Aquí va mi corta lista, que iré updateando en este mismo post, cuando recuerde las pocas cosas que he leido. Guía para el Amor de Binky /Matt Groening Jimmy Corrigan /Chris Ware Maus I&II /Art Spiegelman Como un guante de seda forjado en hierro /Daniel Clowes Watchmen /por Moore, Gibbons y Higgins Las cajas de Corto Maltés /Hugo Pratt El Naufrago 4 /Jorge Blanco Ze -------------------- Para poner videos de YouTube: [doHTML] Video Embed [/doHTML] Comentarios a mis trabajos bienvenidos (no importa el tipo de crítica) FEEL THE POWER OF ZUPLEMENTO!

maxtor	Posted: Apr 23 2007, 06:30 PM
Newbie Group: Miembro Posts: 4 Member No.: 211 Joined: 22-April 07	La historia del Universo en Cómic /Larry Gonick Doctor Vertigo /Martí Bone /Jeff Smith Torpedo 1936 /Bernet & Abulí Taxista /Martí El Eternauta /Hector Germán Oesterheld & Francisco Solano López Skin Deep /Charles Burns ACME Novelty /Chris Ware Jimmy Corrigan /Chris Ware Monstruos Modernos /Martí Black Hole /Charles Burns La Mazmorra /Joann Sfar Pussey! /Daniel Clowes Trazo de Tisa /Meguelantxo Prado David Boring /Daniel Clowes Calvin & Hobbes /Bill Watterson El gato del rabino /Joann Sfar Como un guante de seda forjado en hierro /Daniel Clowes Gorazde: zona protegida /Joe Sacco The Living & The Dead /Jason Fritz the cat /R. Crumb Made in USA /Fernando de Felipe Peter Pank /Max Yonquis del Espacio /makoki Maus /Art Spiegelman Kafka /R. Crumb & David Zane Mairowitz Jerónimo Puchero /Boucq Museum /Fernando de Felipe Quotidianía Delirante /Miguelantxo Prado Hombre /Antonio Seguro & José Ortiz La Piquiña /Edy & Mauro Nacido Salvaje /Fernando de Felipe Nekrón /Magnus Grandes Batallas de los X-men /V.A. Marvel Comics Buscavidas /Alberto Breccia & Trillo Gatho /Wil Boogie el Aceitoso /Fontanarrosa Condorito /Pepo La Balada del Mar Salado /Hugo Pratt Krazy Kat Viaje al Corazón de la Tormenta El Viaje a Italia Peanuts The Spirit Tales from the Crypt Alita La mujer del mago Sam & Max El Borbah Makoki Akira Saigon-Hanoi Las Puertitas del Sr. López -------------------- http://vinagreta.net

maxtor	Posted: Apr 24 2007, 05:45 PM
Newbie Group: Miembro Posts: 4 Member No.: 211 Joined: 22-April 07	¡cómo van a poner a Bone en el puesto 71 y el pato donald en el primer lugar! virgensantísima! -------------------- http://vinagreta.net

zaTan	Posted: Apr 25 2007, 04:47 AM
Delivery Boy Group: Miembro Gerencia Posts: 1,346 Member No.: 2 Joined: 26-December 05	¿Alguien que me preste Bone? [J1m, necesitamos agregar un emoticon sonrojado a la colección, no voy a poder seguir posteando en este tema!] no me he terminado de leer: Jimmy Corrigan "The Smartest Kid on Earth" /Mr. F. C. Ware pero estoy seguro que va para el top10, una obra de arte... BRUTAL! ----- Max pillé que cambiaste la firma, bien. De todos modos puedes poner imagen; el tamaño máximo de la firma, es justo la medida que usamos en los banners de Zup.com so, si te diseñas uno de Vinagreta, puedes matar 2 pájaros de un tiro. Hice un post de vinagre en el BlogZup (por si no t avisé): http://zuplemento.blogspot.com/ (PD. tienes q leer Jimmy Corrigan! ) ----- Edit: hmm tendría que agregar algo de Liniers por ahi... Ze -------------------- Para poner videos de YouTube: [doHTML] Video Embed [/doHTML] Comentarios a mis trabajos bienvenidos (no importa el tipo de crítica) FEEL THE POWER OF ZUPLEMENTO!

zaTan

Posted: Oct 29 2007, 12:35 AM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Journal

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The Journal published a 20th century comics canon in its 210th issue (February 1999). To compile the list, eight contributors and editors each selected his top 100 works. The eight lists were then informally combined, and tweaked into an ordered list. Widely circulated, the list became the Journal's best known and most controversial cover feature.

The Top 100 list was criticized for the small number of jurors, as well as the exclusion of comics in languages other than English. Large bodies of inconsistent work were counted as single entries for some artists and one publisher (i.e. Foster, Gould, Gray, Hirschfeld, 1950s EC), while selected individual works of other artists were considered as separate, multiple entries (i.e. Crumb, Kurtzman). Some perceived a self-promoting bias; installments of Los Bros Hernandez' Love and Rockets comic, published by Fantagraphics, were counted as separate works and claimed 5 of the top 31 slots.

Fantagraphics' response was that, as a publisher dedicated to identifying and promoting the best comics of the past and present, it was no great surprise that many of their choices were also works that they had published or reprinted; they have since published further entries from the list.

The Village Voice cited the survey's unmanageable criteria:

Putting Bernard Krigstein and Al Feldstein's eight-page story "Master Race," Hal Foster's 34 years of work on Prince Valiant, Al Hirschfeld's theatrical caricatures, all the horror comics EC published in the first half of the '50s and Robert Crumb's sketchbooks in the same category suggests that they've cast their net a bit wide.

Several inclusions and omissions were controversial. Some readers argued for the convoluted contraptions of Rube Goldberg, Frank Miller's stylish The Dark Knight Returns, Superman's first appearance in Action Comics #1, and the influential post-1956 Mad Magazine (following original editor Harvey Kurtzman's ouster), among others.

Superhero comics, which have dominated the American marketplace for half a century, were represented by six entries, with the foremost selection being ranked either 30th (or 15th, if one counts Will Eisner's The Spirit).

Dave Sim's long-running Cerebus was the list's most frequently cited absentee. Sim and the Journal have periodically been at odds. Fantagraphics co-publisher Kim Thompson has admitted at least one story arc from the comic should have been included, if only to have avoided the brouhaha over its absence.

1. Krazy Kat by George Herriman
2. Peanuts by Charles Schulz
3. Pogo by Walt Kelly
4. Maus by Art Spiegelman
5. Little Nemo in Slumberland by Winsor McCay
6. Feiffer by Jules Feiffer
7. Donald Duck by Carl Barks
8. Mad Comics by Harvey Kurtzman & various
9. Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary by Justin Green
10. The Weirdo stories of Robert Crumb
11. Thimble Theatre by E.C. Segar
12. EC's "New Trend" war comics by Harvey Kurtzman & various
13. Wigwam Bam (L&R) by Jaime Hernandez
14. Blood of Palomar (L&R) by Gilbert Hernandez
15. The Spirit by Will Eisner
16. RAW Magazine, edited by Art Spiegelman & Francoise Mouly
17. The Acme Novelty Library by Chris Ware
18. Polly & Her Pals by Cliff Sterret
19. The Sketchbooks of Robert Crumb
20. Uncle Scrooge by Carl Barks
21. The New Yorker cartoons of Peter Arno
22. The Death of Speedy Ortíz (L&R) by Jaime Hernandez
23. Terry and the Pirates by Milton Caniff
24. Flies on the Ceiling (L&R) by Jaime Hernandez
25. Wash Tubbs by Roy Crane
26. The Jungle Book by Harvey Kurtzman
27. Palestine by Joe Sacco
28. The Mishkin saga by Kim Deitch
29. Gasoline Alley by Frank King
30. The Fantastic Four by Jack Kirby & Stan Lee
31. Poison River (L&R) by Gilbert Hernandez
32. Plastic Man by Jack Cole
33. Dick Tracy by Chester Gould
34. The theatrical caricatures of Al Hirschfeld
35. The Amazing Spider-Man by Steve Ditko & Stan Lee
36. Calvin and Hobbes by Bill Watterson
37. Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau
38. The autobiographical comics from Yummy Fur by Chester Brown
39. The editorial cartoons of Pat Oliphant
40. The Kin-der-Kids by Lyonel Feininger
41. From Hell by Alan Moore & Eddie Campbell
42. Ghost World by Daniel Clowes
43. Amphigorey by Edward Gorey
44. The Idiots Abroad (Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers) by Gilbert Shelton & Paul Mavrides
45. Paul Auster's City of Glass by Paul Karasik & David Mazzucchelli
46. Cages by Dave McKean
47. The Buddy Bradley saga by Peter Bagge
48. The cartoons of James Thurber
49. Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud
50. Tantrum by Jules Feiffer
51. The Alec stories of Eddie Campbell
52. It's a Good Life, If You Don't Weaken by Seth
53. The editorial cartoons of Herblock
54. EC's "New Trend" horror comics by Al Feldstein & various
55. The Frank stories by Jim Woodring
56. Julius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer by Ben Katchor
57. A Contract with God by Will Eisner
58. The New Yorker cartoons of Charles Addams
59. Little Lulu by John Stanley
60. Alley Oop by V. T. Hamlin
61. American Splendor #1-10 by Harvey Pekar & various
62. Little Orphan Annie by Harold Gray
63. Hey Look! by Harvey Kurtzman
64. Goodman Beaver by Harvey Kurtzman & Bill Elder
65. Bringing Up Father by George McManus
66. Zippy the Pinhead by Bill Griffith
67. The Passport by Saul Steinberg
68. Barnaby by Crockett Johnson
69. God's Man by Lynd Ward
70. Jimbo by Gary Panter
71. The Book of Jim by Jim Woodring
72. The short stories in Rubber Blanket by David Mazzucchelli
73. The Cartoon History of the Universe by Larry Gonick
74. Ernie Pook's Comeek by Lynda Barry
75. Black Hole by Charles Burns
76. The "Master Race" story by Bernard Krigstein & Al Feldstein
77. Li'l Abner by Al Capp
78. Sugar and Spike by Sheldon Mayer
79. Captain Marvel by C. C. Beck
80. Zap Comix by Robert Crumb & various
81. The Lily stories (Daddy's Girl) by Debbie Drechsler
82. Caricature by Daniel Clowes
83. V for Vendetta by Alan Moore & David Lloyd
84. Why I Hate Saturn by Kyle Baker
85. The Willie and Joe cartoons of Bill Mauldin
86. Stuck Rubber Baby by Howard Cruse
87. The New Yorker cartoons of George Price
88. Jack Kirby's Fourth World by Jack Kirby
89. The autobiographical comics of Spain Rodriguez
90. Mr. Punch by Neil Gaiman & Dave McKean
91. Watchmen by Alan Moore & Dave Gibbons
92. The "Pictopia" story by Alan Moore & Don Simpson
93. Dennis the Menace by Hank Ketcham
94. The humor comics of Basil Wolverton
95. Los Tejanos by Jack Jackson (alias Jaxon)
96. The Dirty Plotte series by Julie Doucet
97. "The Hannah Story" by Carol Tyler
98. Barney Google by Billy De Beck
99. The Bungle Family by Harry Tuthill
100. Prince Valiant by Hal Foster

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j1m_cr0w	Posted: Oct 29 2007, 10:44 AM
I'm on mothefuckin' space!!! Group: Miembro Gerencia Posts: 228 Member No.: 1 Joined: 25-December 05	verga no conozco al 50% de los comics de la lista jajajaja -j1m

mike	Posted: Oct 29 2007, 12:40 PM
Member Group: Miembro Posts: 11 Member No.: 29 Joined: 17-February 06	a ver, posteando por primera vez desde hace como un año. Ni de vaina voy a ahcer una lista larga de los mejores comics que he leido, sino de lo que me acuerde que es depinga. a ver, el primer lugar induscutible es Watchmen. v for vendetta. the league of the extraordinary gentlemen (alguien dirá: este carajo solo lee Alan Moore) Maus Black Hole Jimmy corrigan the smartest kid on earth Macanudo (de liniers) Dark night returns Batman: year one Weapon x (barry windsor smith) Acabo de comprar Persepolis que se ve burda de arrecho, les comentaré cuando lo me llegue. eso es lo que me acuerdo por los momentos! cualquier duda o queja favor dirijirse a la gerencia

zaTan	Posted: Oct 29 2007, 02:15 PM
Delivery Boy Group: Miembro Gerencia Posts: 1,346 Member No.: 2 Joined: 26-December 05	Muy bonito, reapareciendo por los barrios en epoca de elecciones... _____ Los pusiste en orden? osea, Black Hole arriba de J Corrigan? Ya me lei Persepolis, me lo prestó Carolina Machera, es fino, q version compraste? tapa dura/todos juntos/ingles? Ze -------------------- Para poner videos de YouTube: [doHTML] Video Embed [/doHTML] Comentarios a mis trabajos bienvenidos (no importa el tipo de crítica) FEEL THE POWER OF ZUPLEMENTO!

R_A_Winkelmann	Posted: Oct 29 2007, 02:19 PM
R. A. W. Group: Miembro Fajado Posts: 344 Member No.: 62 Joined: 26-June 06	¿Cómo es posible que no esté Sandman de Neil Gaiman y en lugar de eso ponen Mr. Punch!!!? El top 10 también está raro, se supone que deben ser al menos los comics que han tenido mayor influencia en el medio, unos cuantos allí de los que nunca he escuchado (Feiffer? Binky Brown?).... eso sin contar el resto de la lista, del 11 al 20 sólo se me hacen familiares (no los he leído) The Spirit y Uncle Scrooge. -------------------- "Conseguí desvanecer en mi espíritu toda esperanza humana. Sobre toda dicha, para estrangularla, salté con el ataque sordo del animal feroz." Rimbaud.

mike	Posted: Nov 2 2007, 11:06 AM
Member Group: Miembro Posts: 11 Member No.: 29 Joined: 17-February 06	la edición que compré vienen los dos tomos en un cofre. Como la edición de Maus que te presté. Respecto a si black hole está sobre Jimmy Corrigan? No se..... de la lista el único lugar que es seguro es el de watchmen. De resto no puedo ponerlos en orden. y apoyo ese comentario de que la lista está muy sospechosa.

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