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How Can You Rate Our Government?
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sure. go ahead. rate the government. you should realize though that the vote you will be giving our government is actually a vote you give yourself on what you contribute for our country.
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| QUOTE (Lord CinderFury @ Dec 28 2005, 10:04 PM) | | sure. go ahead. rate the government. you should realize though that the vote you will be giving our government is actually a vote you give yourself on what you contribute for our country. |
Exactly. /gg
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basta sexy, sa sarap pinapatay~*

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so u pointed na mas maganda cguro pag tuunan ng goverment ntin ang mga pinag sasabi mo..maybe tama ka,but y some people dont understand na may ginagawa ang goverment ntin,matagal na tyung mahirap takenote:ever since ndi pa c gloria,and wak sna nting sabihing patay gutom corrupt watever....ecth.d lhat d ba? /? ang point ko d2 wak sna ung kamalian lng lalo ng ng leader ang nakikita,kya nga nasabi ni gloria na bad boy image na ang media,kz puro nega lng ang pinapakita,dont tell me nakakatulong un sa economy? maybe? maybe not? eigther na magsikap tyu or isisi habang buhay sa goverment kung ano meron tyu..ooopps its my damn opinion respect na lng kz below the belt yta patama mu ehhh.....peace out
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ok lng po ba if magkaron kmi ng onting debate d2? wakokoko
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@ Jeff
If you read my last reply again, you'd see that I already said that people shouldn't go blaming the government all the time for their poverty. Tulad nang sinabi ko, hindi naman tama ang manisi ng manisi. People have to contribute to the betterment of society. The point I wanted to make is that part of that contribution is being aware of how our tax money is being spent. The point I wanted to make is regardless of whether people complain or not, the current government in plain reality is a sick and corrupt piece of crap. Now I don't think that seeing Atienza's gigantic poster or Echiveri's face-parols are a good way of spending government money. Do you?
Also, ano yung "below the belt" na patama ko? o.O
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after reading all that sana mahiwalay na mindanao sa pinas...after all GNP contribution off mindanao is 54% all in all total...kaya i think yayaman kami taga mindanao weeeeeeeeeeeee and maliit lang share ng mindanao nasa national wealth puro nasa luzon area lahat...
kaya poor rating bigay ko sa government...very very poor...pag tinupad nila federalism way of governance maybe bumalik bilib ko sa gobyerno..
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Same question as in the other thread. What's federalism?
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| QUOTE (Angelsnite @ Dec 29 2005, 12:18 AM) | | Same question as in the other thread. What's federalism? |
COMMENTARY Federalism: New hope for Mindanao and the Philippines 1st of two parts By Sylvia Okinlay-Paraguya Chair, Mindanao Coalition of Development NGOs (Mincode)
We are for a federal form of government. This commitment has been enshrined n our advocacy since we converged in 1991 as the broadest and largest grouping of cooperatives, people’s organizations, non-government organizations and no-government individuals. It is within the context of political parity and economic equity - the twin goals of genuine people’s development - that firmed up our commitment for a federal republic of the Philippines.
The interrelatedness of political stability and economic empowerment are clearly manifested as we assist and work with the communities in the six regions, as well as in the 25 provinces in Mindanao. Such relationship can also be gleaned from the national development perspective: between Mindanao and the central government in Manila.
Federalism as a Peace Option
Our collective quest for peace is anchored on the results of the talks between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, between the government and the National Democratic Front, and between the government and the Revolutionary Proletariat Movement in Mindanao.
While we remain optimistic on the mainstream peace process, greater people’s participation in the peace talks must also take place.
One of the most important developments contributing to the shift in the world political paradigm from a centralized government to federalism has been the demonstrated utility of federal arrangements in peace-making. In a world well advanced in its movement toward federalism as the new paradigm for interstate and intergroup relations, we must expect it also to offer considerable promise for peace-making. As federalists, we work hard to find ever better ways to utilize and apply federalism to the cause of peace.
There is a certain justification for this seeming truth in that “federal” is a loaded term, one that, more than simply describing arrangements and institutions, has to do with serious principles, real attitudes, binding relationships, specific expectations with regard to mutual trust, in short, the will to federate. Even if the discussion of federalist political culture is relatively not new on the political science agenda, the sense that federalism can only succeed where such political culture exists sufficiently also figures into this equation. Even less expressed is the expectation that federalism has at least one of its major roots in the idea of federal liberty, that is to say, liberty to do that which is mutually agreed upon in the founding compact or its subsequent constitutional modifications. Without federal liberty as an accepted principle, neither freedom nor responsibility can develop properly.
One of the ways to overcome the deficiency seems to be by widening the sphere to be encompassed by the solution. This is necessary for federal peace-making to take place, in some cases from the very first. For example, efforts to bring together two separate units are inevitably problematic not only because it is easy for every issue to turn into a zero-sum game with one side winning and the other losing, but it also is difficult to transform develop or transform issues into ones in which both sides win . It is true that in some cases when both sides are losing sufficiently, widening the sphere helps them come together to control their losses.
No matter what form federalism takes, how federal institutions are designed, and what federal principles are emphasized, it is generally clear by now that where there is a positive attitude toward federalism and a will to build a federal system, where the political society involved rests on sufficient trust, sufficiently widespread to allow the many leaps of faith that must be taken to make federalism work, where political culture is either favorable or at least open to federal arrangements, where all of this leads to a wider understanding of liberty as federal liberty, then federalism has a good chance of succeeding when used for peace-making. It may have almost as good a chance if most of those elements are present and some chance even if one of two of them is. But it seems quite clear that without any, the chances of success are extremely limited.
Federalism and the right to self-determination
Asserting and reclaiming their self-determination is essential among Lumad and Bangsamoro peoples.
The Lumad peoples have persistently expressed their own preference for self-determination, having seen that their absorption into the unitary political system has brought about the establishment and solidification of a threat to their very own existence and the integrity of their distinct cultures.
The Bangsamoro have their own distinct identity and vested interest that must be respected and cannot be satisfied by a continued subscription to political uniformity. With the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao, the central government has allowed, albeit grudgingly, a departure from the stranglehold of central authority. The passage of the Local Government Code in 1991 further chips away powers from central authority; the local government units from the regional autonomy to the barangay are able to exercise greater self-determination.
The right to decide and choose (what) is best for one’s self is a sacred right that cannot be taken away from any individual and citizen. Those deprived of this right are also unable to fulfill their aspirations for the future.
Under a federal set up, greater powers will be devolved to the local citizenry, making grassroots participation more meaningful and broaden the powers of the citizens over the state.
Self-determination comes in many forms. In the political sphere, it comes in the form of semi-independent units. In the Philippines: sitio, barangay, municipality, province, regional autonomy, nation. Self-determination grows with increased political autonomy or the ability to stand on one’s own feet. In the political history of the world, greatest autonomy to political units is experiences by the states of a federal state.
The more obvious advantage is greater power-sharing between the national or federal government and the state/local government. Since the states will have their own legislatures, real decision-making is brought closer home to the people. This is the immediate consequence of the political re-structuring. But, in fact, the citizens can push further to ensure that in the federal constitution and the state laws, greater people participation in the decision-making process is institutionalized.
(MindaViews is the opinion section of MindaNews. Sylvia Okinlay-Paraguya is the chair of the Mindanao Coalition of Development NGOS or Mincode. Ms Paraguya presented this paper at the Kusog Mindanaw roundtable conference on “Federal republic or Mindanao independence” last Friday at the Mandaya hotel).
i hope this will explain it to you...its better if you read it from a good source. like this one.^
This post has been edited by D-GROHL on Dec 29 2005, 12:56 AM
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Sheeesh, i wished cheating never existed... at utangs.. /e1 our government really stinks.. booooo!
Sana pareha sa Japan.. even overpopulated, indi poor yung country.
This post has been edited by YunaSakura on Dec 29 2005, 02:07 AM
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| QUOTE (YunaSakura @ Dec 29 2005, 02:05 AM) | Sheeesh, i wished cheating never existed... at utangs.. /e1 our government really stinks.. booooo!
Sana pareha sa Japan.. even overpopulated, indi poor yung country. |
I wish for that too. I wish for it as much iRL as I do in-game. Here's a wish for all scammers, hackers and botters to just curl up and spew their guts out. :D
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basta sexy, sa sarap pinapatay~*

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awts like wat i said dati pa po tyu poor and may utang /swt
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bout dun sa cnbi mo hmm /hmm may point ka pero are u sure na sa tax tlga un? /swt natanong mu na ba? kung bket ka may kalsadang na pag drive an..?natanung mu na ba kung bket safe malakad sa gabi, /swt prang malayu na ung cnbi ko pero un lng nmn,and ung below the belt na cnbi ko 4get it /swt
@topic
bsta ako 7 ang rate ko effort pa lang /swt
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@ Jeff
O.o cge, I'll forget about it. ^_________^
Check the municipal public records. Atienza's billboards are under expenses for public announcements, yung kay Echiveri I'm not so certain but based on a news report I was able t o catch, it's for beautification. /swt
Yung mga lansangan, oo natanong ko na kung bakit kailangan sirain ang ayos naman. Para kumita ang mga lintek na puitiko at mga kakunchaba nilang construction companies na usually, mga kamaganak nila ang may-ari. Bakit safe maglakad pag gabi? Safe ba talaga? Try mo maglabas ng cellphone sa isang liblib na pook sa disoras ng gabi na magisa ka lang. Post mo na lang ang mangyayari. /gg
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basta sexy, sa sarap pinapatay~*

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u know wat ate lumalayu na e2ng usapan na e2.. /swt pti ba nmn isisisi pa ntin.... /swt just want to react sa cnbi mo are u sure tlga na sinisira pa ang kalsada na maayos /swt and na prove mu ba na kamaganak.. is that true na mag kakamag anak cla...ang ung sa issue na billboards kaw na nag sabi its for beautification. /swt so ano ang problema dun if for beautification project pla big issue na pra sau un...ung mga cnbi mo bang mayor na un are u sure lhat ng punyetang tax na cnsabi mo dun inuubos..wak ka magsalita kung ndi mo kya i prove paps/moms ooopppss bka mag kapikunan tyu :glomp: :glomp: :glomp: :cuddle:
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ok po maglakad d2 ng gabi safe na safe po we have 911 action teams here...every few blocks mern patrol car ng 911 so i feel safe po..the city adopted the 911 system for the safety of the citizens here..kaya ung mga sinasabi mo po is i think depende na sa lugar....coz here proper allocation ng funds kahit kokonti napupunta sa davao, ginagawa lahat ng mayor d2 ung most needed ng mga citizen...and same as for Gensan and other cities..
pag wala kang kasalanan ginawa d2 sa aming city wala kang dapat katakutan..
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| QUOTE (D-GROHL @ Dec 30 2005, 10:42 PM) | @angelsnite
ok po maglakad d2 ng gabi safe na safe po we have 911 action teams here...every few blocks mern patrol car ng 911 so i feel safe po..the city adopted the 911 system for the safety of the citizens here..kaya ung mga sinasabi mo po is i think depende na sa lugar....coz here proper allocation ng funds kahit kokonti napupunta sa davao, ginagawa lahat ng mayor d2 ung most needed ng mga citizen...and same as for Gensan and other cities..
pag wala kang kasalanan ginawa d2 sa aming city wala kang dapat katakutan.. |
Buti pa kayo, Mas nabibigyang proteksyon ng police force. Sa mga liblib na bahagi ng cubao,quiapo, at kahit manila, hindi natin masasabing ganun din ka safe.
Kung ok naman pala ang serbisyo ng pamahalaan sa city nyo, e bakit mo pa gusto ng gobyernong federal? ^_____________^
@ Jeff
Teka ha, linawin natin para sa pagunawa mo.
1.) Hindi ko sinabing lahat ng tax pumupunta sa bulsa ng balasubas na pulitiko. SYempre hindi. Pero kahit piso lang mula sa kaban ng bayan na kurakutin nila ay sapat na upang masabing balasubas at walang hiya sila. Gets? hehehe
2.) Oo, sigurado ako na ang mga kalsadang tinutukoy ko ay inaayos ng wala namang sira. Bakit ka mo? E doon ako dumadaan e.
3.) Kung nanonood ka o nagbabasa man lang ng balita ukol sa mga nangyayari sa bayan natin, malalaman mo ang lahat ng alleged government deals na napupunta sa mga kamaganak nila kahit on a national level.
4.) Yun nga pong beautification, eto ang reaction ng isang mamamayan ng caloocan na ininterview ukol sa mga mukha ni Echiveri na nakasabit sa mga isle ng lansangan.
" E di ba krismas dapat star ang nakasabit dyan? E hindi e, mukha nya yung nakalagay, ano ba naman yun?"
5.) Err, nagsasalita po ako ukol sa mga bagay na nalalaman ko. ^___^ Kung hindi mo alam ang mga bagay na to well.... malas. Magbasa kasi. :p Hindi po ako napipikon lalo na sa walang kalatuy-latoy na argumento kaya sana, wag maginit ang ulo mo. /gg
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we want it to further improve the systems here..like 911 etc etc..its ok for now but would you agree kng mas magiimprove ung system if we can get more out of the wealth distribution of the nation?
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