Description: flip,puta,shit and the likes....
man of war - September 2, 2006 06:40 PM (GMT)
seriously why is swearing so common and fast becoming a part of every Filipinos way of doing a conversation?... i know its a bad manner to cuss but i still do it way more often than i could pray to god... damn i'm guilty. is it a big deal? or is it one of the negative traits that needs to be change? most of the time i cuss not because i mean what i said but because it had been a natural reaction of mine everytime i do something stupid or had been through a terrible day.. i always promise myself that i will never curse again but its difficult to change especially when it becomes a habit.
dharma - September 3, 2006 12:33 AM (GMT)
it is probably the unconcious manifestion of our surpressed longingness to be physically violent when harboring ill feelings towards someone.
in good times, it is simply a habit. pag mainit ang ulo, sineseryoso naman masyado ang literal meaning ng mura /swt
eroz - September 3, 2006 03:10 AM (GMT)
it serves as an exhaust to release negative emotions and an alternate to physical outrage. Also, it comes along with anger if the swear word is pronounced in a serious manner directed to another person. In less negative situations, it has become an expression, as normal as it has become.
man of war - September 3, 2006 04:53 AM (GMT)
it is still undesirable and must be stopped.. this what i get from spending much time with a buncha retards.
`Janelle - September 3, 2006 05:26 AM (GMT)
Based on my experience, this "cursing" started when I'm in grade 3. My parents don't know that during those tender years of my life, I already know how to curse. I curse because the "in-crowd" did it and I'm part of it. I taught it's cool if you know how to utter those kind of words, and, hey, my parents also do this - so why can't I? I only curse in school - cool effect, huh? But eventually, it became a habit. I want this thing out of my system for so long. I prayed and prayed but I just can't. Maybe that's also the reason why I prefer speaking English than in Filipino or Taglish. If I converse in Taglish, the p words and the s always come out of my mouth.
And like the topic starter, there were even times I curse others but I really didn't mean it. Like him, I believe that this idocracy should be stopped. Why idiocracy? Because most of the people who use these profaine words don't even know its meaning. Yes, they know that it's what you call "mura" in Tagalog, but there's a deeper meaning of it.
These are my confessions.. lolx
man of war - September 3, 2006 09:39 AM (GMT)
yeah it must be stopped!! i hope :nv:
D-GROHL - September 3, 2006 04:09 PM (GMT)
if you really want to stop then mind what yer saying and stop literally...
words that comes out of my mouth are as follow...the f word
the p** ina word sh!T and so as the rest of curse word that we know of.
no one really i know or close friends for that matter hasnt been affected
of it..maybe because using it in the right place and time..now if you ask
do i have a problem saying these things well my answer is a plain no.
and as for being "in" well i can really say this was the reason for me.
i say its like having yer first cigarette you did it because you want to be
cool..also yer first experience with weed or pot for that matter...
anyhow all these things was said and done for the mere reason that
you want to be cool or you really wanted to do it...
again its like yer first cigarette...you can stop, its hard but
hoping without doin anythin is purely fuc kin waste of time.
lastly i wont blame the people around me...my dad who uses p-ina
word almost everytime...my mom who i adore for not saying curse
words everytime like my dad for the longest time i can remember...
my 4 bros who taught me most of the curse words and the bad
habits that i came to know and do...my relatives and cousins who
ive known my entire life who also curse...my friends and love ones
who also curse in any way possible..
dont call em retards...its far more worst than cursing..yer degrading
the people who you spend most of your time with...or you also dont
mean that man of war? hehehe
man of war - September 4, 2006 03:18 AM (GMT)
yes i do mean what i say but yours is a totally different story. i curse but it doesn't mean i'm retarded. and besides not everyone you hang up everytime is worth keeping... but still the point is no matter how cool or harmless you think cursing is it is inappropriate. but i don't really care if people curse its up to them to do what they think is right, i only care about my actions and how they might affect others and of course myself.
dharma - September 4, 2006 03:37 AM (GMT)
i find it fascinating that you will actually take yourself out of the box for a cause that is so out of the ordinary.
man of war - September 4, 2006 04:03 AM (GMT)
it's the small things that matter. in this day and age people are so pre occupied with a lot of things, complicated and unneccessary things. its alright to learn new experiences, new ideas as well as to be in with the current trend... but sometimes people should also think of their actions if its really neccessary.
D-GROHL - September 4, 2006 11:40 AM (GMT)
well im not saying youre a retard or anythin...what i was trying to point out
is calling em retards (people you hang around with) is much more worst
than cursing...also dont imply that people who curse is a bunch of retards
lol then by saying that or cursing for that matter the world is full of retards
dont you think? lol anyway this is but a small uneccessary topic to be
debated upon...well like you its a great idea cursing is bad and the effects
of it to ourselves and our society if we may say so...
and if we all able to stop cursing i think we will achieve the perfect
society.... a utopian dream. where everything is good and everything
of course perfect...
to be honest i find it dull if we as humans dont curse at all..lol
its part of our evolving nature.
man of war - September 4, 2006 02:31 PM (GMT)
i don't strive for perfection neither do i hope. i'm sorry i never said anything like the word retarded against the people you hang out with, who constantly curse. what i said is that im sick of the retards around me who constantly curse when there really is no reason. its like spitting on someone else's face carelessly and constantly. or telling your female friend to "shut the f**k up biatch" infront of many people. you think that's ok? well i might have used the word "retard" inappropriately or the word offended you. whichever it is i'm sorry. anyway i don't wanna further complicate things since i have no intention nor the time for this is the internet everyone is free to write whatever he wants to express as long as the mod still aprroves of it
D-GROHL - September 4, 2006 05:15 PM (GMT)
aw i wasnt offended by it.
what im trying to say is never call the people around you retards.
for which they still are your friends..what ever they do oir say its
up to you to make that change...
i wasnt affected lol...just do call em retards (yer friends.)
make a positive example for them thats all.
anyhow as what i have been saying...cursing is something you put in
place and the right time...
but base on what you said...a friend of yours calling a female friend(s)
with such a foul word(s) with out anyreason at all is stupid...if yer female
friend is affected with it then i think thats the time you should take action
and do whatever it is to prevent that person from saying such cursing
man of war - September 5, 2006 04:02 AM (GMT)
Paternus! - October 24, 2006 06:36 PM (GMT)
As long as it is a habit, It can't be easily evaded in saying such words that disrespect God such as in DotA - Holy Sh*t, etc...
*`candice`* - November 3, 2006 05:05 AM (GMT)
maybe im bad in some ways
pero im proud to say
na i was brought up without that cursing thing
within my family circle...
yes, i never heard my parents telling me on those names
never ko sila narinig nagcucurse
if ever dey did it siguro not infront of me
kaya ako, against ako sa mga ganun ay not that against
d lang talaga mapasok sa immune system ko ung mga pagmumura
ng kapwa ko
but for others i think they really dont mean it
its just an expression lang siguro
..::ExOs::.. - November 3, 2006 03:17 PM (GMT)
i may be bad in my words but
u can't tell how good i am when
u really know me better /gg
..::ExOs::.. - November 3, 2006 03:26 PM (GMT)
i criticized a lot of poeple i the street /heh
i say bad words more than i think /sob
but deep inside in me i don't mean that...
it just pop out in my mouth...
but i don't say bad word in front of my parents nor
in our house either... i just can't say a bad word in our house...
when im mad i bow my head down and keep silent for a while...
and forget what happen... that's me... a mistyfing human being
man of war - November 4, 2006 12:23 PM (GMT)
^same here. how i wish i could stop cursing unintentionally. it's really unhealthy IMO
D-GROHL - November 4, 2006 12:26 PM (GMT)
so you guys think you cant stop cursin?
..::ExOs::.. - November 4, 2006 05:04 PM (GMT)
mmm... i think /heh though i tried not say any bad word for a day really isn't a good idea cuz situation change things in a way that u can't resist to say a bad word...
*`candice`* - November 5, 2006 04:02 AM (GMT)
@exos & man of war
nice to hear na you like
to stop on cursing
at least may goal to stop
pwd yan po magpigil lng ng sarili
and if you guys are mad na talaga
try these line
"God Bless You na lang"
..::ExOs::.. - November 5, 2006 07:19 AM (GMT)
/heh cge i'll try if it works /heh
D-GROHL - November 5, 2006 01:03 PM (GMT)
pede nyu rin isa utak na lng ung mga mura nyu...ung ala nakakarinig.
para d ka mahassle at wala kang mahassle...
Paternus! - November 6, 2006 07:55 PM (GMT)
Kung isa utak mo prang may bad sense ka pa rin eh in other words, masama pa rin, sin pa rin... Kagaya nlng ng Lust in Mind...(Teka nsa Sanctum of Faith and Belief ba ako?) :lol:
Ang Pangit dyan ay kpag ginawa mo nang habit ang profanity...
D-GROHL - November 7, 2006 03:02 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Cardinal~ @ Nov 7 2006, 03:55 AM)|
| Kung isa utak mo prang may bad sense ka pa rin eh in other words, masama pa rin, sin pa rin... Kagaya nlng ng Lust in Mind...(Teka nsa Sanctum of Faith and Belief ba ako?) :lol:|
Ang Pangit dyan ay kpag ginawa mo nang habit ang profanity...
atleast yer not saying it towards anybody or anyone that might aggrevate the sit
youll only hurt yer conscience and perhaps youll realize that what yer saying
actually hurts..to you to other people in a given situation.
f.!.d.e.s. - November 9, 2006 07:34 PM (GMT)
mga $*&^%%^$(*(@ kau!!!
sana ma *&&%^%^*^(&^ na mga %&^%&^$#$#%$ nyo!!!
Rizelmine - November 10, 2006 12:52 PM (GMT)
no spamming please, thank you..
Way back in high school I do curse alot, I never finish a sentence without cursing ( I think).. But thank you GOD I was able to overcome that bad habbit. ;)) I'm not saying that I don't totally cuss anymore.. pag sobrang galit ako, di ko rin maiwasan ang mapamura.
Sidious - November 11, 2006 05:31 AM (GMT)
had the same syndrome as ate mika. im trying to change it. masama ung puro mura hahahha.
..::ExOs::.. - November 12, 2006 12:56 PM (GMT)
the last few weeks d ako nkapag mura /heh /heh i think that's a big achievement to me /heh /heh
sna tataas pa tung streak na to /heh /heh
marLo - November 12, 2006 01:19 PM (GMT)
while we're growing up, we learn differrent things- things that we should accept and welcome to our life.. but you(we? =P)gotta be wise :unsure: o__0
i grew up on the street.. and you know.. things that at young age, i already knew alot of things that bunch of people think i couldn't do that and that.. that kinda thing. i was/am aggressive :unsure:. kala ko nung una ako nag imbento nung word na "puto" eh =)) but day had passed.. my mom heard me saying that. i recieved spanking /sob
then i stopped saying bad words. (I REALLY DID! :D) palaboy who doesn't say any badwords /gg ironic eh :rofl:
then the world went around when i was in grade 6.. it changed me alot. i tried things that was incapable of and far from understanding a 'normal' grade 6 student. i felt i was embracing my friggin freedom. (ouieee :happydance:)
teachers use to say bad words too.. kontrolado lng nila srili nila s school but sometimes, they miss it :woot: at ndi lng yan /gg
cursing, cussing, swearing is a part of growing up.. just like sex :woot:
Rizelmine - November 12, 2006 04:19 PM (GMT)
Yeah, it's part of growing up.. if you choose to. Pero sometimes, pag lagi nating sinasabi na "ay normal lang naman to eh" "ay tao lang po, nagkakamali din".. nagiging excuse ang mga dahilan na yun para di na natin subukang baguhin ang mga masamang bisyo or gawain kasi nga you accepted the fact na it's already a part of you. I believe in both being a realist and being idealistic at the same time. I'm a great believer of balance "Too much of anything is bad".. Yes we should accept some facts of life, our imperfections.. but are we just going to settle for that? Don't we want to become a better person? not for others but for ourselves?
marLo - November 12, 2006 08:44 PM (GMT)
before you make a 'choice', there's always been something affecting you or something derives you from your experience.. you don't make a choice because you just plainly want it, do you?.. but one of your personalities are appearing or showing off, like curiosity.
i felt so good when i was saying bad words in front my friends, kala ko un lang ang nagpapakita ng pagkalalake maliban s sports :rofl: but seriously, it's not fckng cool lalo na pag pnaulet ulet mo /swt
i'm like.. come on, man.. show some class /e15
opportunities come across in our lives- the things that can change our lives to a better story. syempre s una lulubus lubusin mo magmura.. thinking it's cool.. (uuhhhh!) pero magsasawa ka rin.. then guess what happens? :D
if we don't take a chance in each of those opportunities, then it's not somebody's fault. it's your fault. then the word "loser" will enter.
yea we can't stop saying bad words.. but after all, we still change... because anything can happen to anybody.
Rizelmine - November 15, 2006 04:37 AM (GMT)
|before you make a 'choice', there's always been something affecting you or something derives you from your experience.. you don't make a choice because you just plainly want it, do you?.. but one of your personalities are appearing or showing off, like curiosity.|
yup you're right, but still even if you just dont "plainly" want to, still you made that choice, dba? (pero most of the time, ginusto ng tao.. kasi you chose to give in to the temptation, to your curiosity. Ang naiisip ko nalang pwedeng maging scenario nung you didnt want to learn to cuss.. at an early age, during baby & toddler years naririnig mo ang mga tao sa paligid mo na nagmumura palagi) nobody bullied you or pinilit ka na everyday of your highschool or maybe elementary life na magmura at magmura. ;)) you chose to give in to your curiosity or to be part of the "in" crowd.. cussing maybe had been a part of your growing up but I'm just wishing we wont keep saying "cussing is a part of growing up" or any other vices. There's a big difference.. it's one thing to admit or choose something to be a part of "your" growing up and it's another thing to state that it's "part of growing up" in general na parang it's a fact. Kasi pag tumagal other people specially those in younger age will get the notion na cussing is ok, kasi everybody is doing it.. Baka dumating yung panahon na pati ang pagdra-drugs eh magiging "part of growing up" na rin or "part of life" in general. It sort of encourages people kasi if we keep on saying those phrases.
There are some things that may had been a part of your growing up but it was not for everybody. For example.. ako YOSI was never been a part of my growing up (because I chose & refuse for it to be a part of me) believe it or not. I don't smoke ever since. Well maybe I did tried it, for what? for just a minute? then after that wala na. Di mo masasabi na kasama sa paglaki ko ang yosi just for trying it for a minute, dba? I was sorrounded by people who smoke, my friends, hell.. even my dad smokes /heh I was never the geeky, PNB(patay na bata), timid, and the lifeless type of kid.. who doesnt take risks and never disobeyed parents. Partying (umuuwi ng madaling araw), Drinking, cussing was part of "my" growing up.. pero ang yosi and other vices was not. So my point is this things may had been part of my growing up but it doesnt have to be the same with others.
Yes we have a choice, it might not be that easy but still we do have a choice. ^_^
and another thing.. all experience is not good. We don't have to experience everything para lang matuto.
marLo - November 15, 2006 09:31 PM (GMT)
yea i knoe what you mean. we just have different understanding.. npaka precise kase pag tinaglog mo tlga eh.. pero english un eh. pag english kase marami tlgang translation.. so iba tlga pagkakaintindi natin... you could have just asked what i mean.
anyway, what i really mean is..
cussing, at some point, is not actually part of growing up. curiosity is, though (and ya making a decision/choosing too). on this modern day, tell me somebody don't know any bad word/s or still don't get a chance to hear any swearing. tell me some people don't know how to cuss/won't learn how to cuss. (im not saying ALL people are cursing ^_^) but when curiosity pops up, they will probably learn.. and there's a chance it will become part of their lives.
ya, i said it's a part of growing up but it doesn't mean it must be a "part of growing". i'm not also saying all people should/must learn how to curse.. i'm just saying as we're growing up, we learn different things that can be part of our life.
*hindi natin kailangan matuto magmura o magsalita ng masasamang bagay kasi hindi ito parang pagkain na kailangan nating kainin para mabuhay. hindi tayo mamamatay pag hindi tayo nakapagmura. hindi ko sinabi na kailangan nating magmura para makumpleto ang buhay natin. pero habang tumatanda tayo, hindi natin naiiwasang matuto ng mga bagay na nagiging bahagi ng ating buhay.
for everybody's sake, i rephrase this
|cursing, cussing, swearing is a part of growing up.. just like sex|
| KNOWING HOW TO CURSE, CUSS, SWEAR IS A PART OF GROWING UP.. JUST LIKE STUDYING SEX :D|
Rizelmine - November 16, 2006 01:52 AM (GMT)
| yea i knoe what you mean. we just have different understanding.. npaka precise kase pag tinaglog mo tlga eh.. pero english un eh. pag english kase marami tlgang translation.. so iba tlga pagkakaintindi natin... you could have just asked what i mean.|
It wasn't really hard to decipher what you were trying to say since you used basic english and tagalog. So asking what you truly meant didn't really cross my mind because I thought I had a full understanding of what you were trying to convey.. maybe the way you want it to be interpreted is different from the way you presented your opinion. ^_^ I totally agree though english is quite complex. :D
Don't get me wrong, I totally respect your opinion & everybody else's opinion and I'm not saying my word is law & what I believe in is the only thing that matters. Well, I'm saying this, just incase you might think I'm trying to push my beliefs into you. ;))
|ya, i said it's a part of growing up but it doesn't mean it must be a "part of growing". i'm not also saying all people should/must learn how to curse.. i'm just saying as we're growing up, we learn different things that can be part of our life.|
Im not saying that what you meant with the "part of growing up" is "it must be part of growing up".. but the statement "part of growing up" is in fact general.. IMO, it's almost saying it's the same with everybody that it's part of everybody's growing up stage. *`candice`* did say it wasn't part of hers. And I respect what she said and I believe her.. but lets assume that everyone went thru that phase.. still I'd really wish (it's not a must but a wish.. from my idealistic side :rofl: ) we wont say or just accept it as part of growing up. As time passes, while it's being accepted it's becoming normal.. time might come that all people will think it's not immoral anymore. Even though doing drugs weighs waaaaaaay more than cursing and it's againts the law and cursing's not.. I connected the two because both are immoral acts. And doing drugs being accepted as a phase is just one of the worst case scenario. It's possible.. I remember what my brother said "Sa states parang normal nalang yung nagdaan sa pag dra-drugs" I'm not really sure if this is factual, but if ever it is, it is because more and more people are accepting the fact that it's part of growing up. You see how can a small phrase affects so many people & the society.
It might sound too cheezy but yeah, I'm really hoping for a better world.. though I know nothing will happen if I just sit around and wish for it. That's why I'm voicing my sentiments and hoping there are people who will reflect on it.
Like I said I'm not trying to push my beliefs to anyone, I could still be wrong or I may be wishing for something impossible and trying to hope for the inevitable to stop.
world peace :lolwave:
marLo - November 16, 2006 03:46 AM (GMT)
we can't really take away the fact the vices and others stuffs can be part of our life.. like, i do curse, i do smoke, i do clubbing, i do drink.. and i tried to think of those things if they're good for me or make me a better person.. but it never worked, i mean (i'm just giving an example here from my own experience :D and i don't care if you guys believe me or not :p) i tried to get rid of my addiction to smoking, i didn't smoke for like 3-4 months. last summer i never did one.. but i couldn't resist.. and now, i'm doing it.. i guess it has been part of my life. and it had been part of 'my' growing up.. i can control myself but i take it away and just dumped it. what more if i tried to get rid of my cursing, knowing that smoking is way heavier that cursing, it's not gonna last for a day or 2 i assume /heh
it's not supposed to be a part of growing up for everybody.. but as we're growing up, we can't really deny that we're seeing/hearing things that make us curious so we become eager to learn it. the things that can be part of our life.. a part of our life which we could or, sometimes, we couldn't get away from. and growing up, which is just an ignorant phase of our biography, is part of our life.
|It wasn't really hard to decipher what you were trying to say since you used basic english and tagalog.|
ya because im just tryna type what what my mouth can say.. and mind. lol =P
| Well, I'm saying this, just incase you might think I'm trying to push my beliefs into you. |
don't worry, im likin it. i like what you're doin, you're tough :mwahaha:
|Like I said I'm not trying to push my beliefs to anyone, I could still be wrong or I may be wishing for something impossible and trying to hope for the inevitable to stop.|
i'm not judging your opinion :D
Rizelmine - November 16, 2006 04:37 AM (GMT)
oh, Im not that tough ;))
yupyup, we really are prone to giving in to temptations, vices.. and we all make mistakes.. but what's important, is we learn from them.. and lets try not to justify those mistakes.
In my case naman, I learned to cuss pagtungtong ko ng 1st year highschool. Nung elementary days ko I was studying in a Born Again religion school, sobrang bawal talagang magmura. Then I transfered to a Catholic school nung 1st year.. na culture-shock ako. /heh my classmates cuss alot. At first ilang na ilang ako kasi di ako sanay na nakakarinig ng mura.. but eventually nahawa din ako. Almost every sentence ata may mura. :faint: Good thing nawala na sakin yun. /heh Occasional cursing nalang.. pang bawas ng galit. Pero I don't curse anyone straight to their faces. I'd rather confront those people na galit ako na may sense yung sinasabi ko without telling them na their mother is a whore..
oops pahabol.. you edited your post. /heh
I also want to make it clear na Im not saying na we can avoid those vices or we can avoid comitting mistakes. Kasi talagang magkakamali tayo.. All Im trying to point out is let's try not to justify those mistakes we make.