Title: RU486
Description: What do you think?
eroz - July 19, 2006 05:32 AM (GMT)
i would really like to have some input from this community about my case analysis, RU486, an abortion pill. thanks
read on... it explains everything.
RU486?
Jemski - July 19, 2006 05:50 AM (GMT)
Its definitely a NO NO if its ends a fetus' life.
Abortion is definitely wrong no matter from what viewpoint you take it.Its taking away an innocent life that wasnt given a chance to even see the world.
^[FS]Monk - July 19, 2006 05:56 AM (GMT)
grabe naman kapag naging legal yan dito :faint:
bababa stado naten from humans to animals.
pero tingin ko animals din ngayon meron na right para mabuhay
eroz - July 19, 2006 06:04 AM (GMT)
ok, here's my view. although i would never use one of those to my girlfriend if i have >_< i think that it was a breakthrough in the field of abortion. pills instead of physical procedures.
kasi naman nasa PRO side ako ng case analysis so i must defend the company that made this pill.
we all know that abortion have already been legalized in some countries, such as China which has a 1 child policy and some European countries. so the first problem is not the product but the government and the society that brings upon the need of RU486.
feedbacks pls, thanks /thx
himichan - July 19, 2006 06:07 AM (GMT)
Still its wrong a Big NO NO >=(
eroz - July 19, 2006 06:09 AM (GMT)
ahehe... thought so... we are of conservative cultures in the first place >_<
[adx]™ DeaThStriKe - July 19, 2006 06:33 AM (GMT)
damn & that's a very NO NO! kahit aprubahan nila yan.. papatayin parin nla ang isang batang bigay ng diyos upang mabuhay d2 sa mundo nten.. nde tama para uminom cla yan at papatayin lng nila ang mgging anak nila.. /e5
Jemski - July 19, 2006 07:46 AM (GMT)
It may be legalized in some countries,but it doesnt mean we have to follow.
Thats what Filipinos should be--create an identity of their own,not just follow with the TRENDS of Western Society.
tenggy - July 19, 2006 01:59 PM (GMT)
if it's for medical reasons, fine.
but if it's not, not fine. ok lang sana if that's the only way to control overpopulation and unwanted children, pero hindi eh.. may forms of prevention naman in the first place (oo, it's not 100%, but the world isn't perfect you know). i just don't think pleasure equates to life.
eroz - July 22, 2006 02:49 AM (GMT)
ok, now i need positive feedbacks as regards to the pill as a tool for abortion of an abnormal growth.
scenario: further development of the fetus can risk the woman's life.
Jemski - July 22, 2006 03:19 AM (GMT)
^
That's another story.
U have to sacrifice one life for the sake of two.
Choose the lesser of two evils,ika nga.
silent - July 22, 2006 10:54 AM (GMT)
poor kid. but what can i say, the parents never really wanted him/her. might as well put him/her out of his/her misery. kpg lumaki pa yan, e lalo lang mahihirapan yan dhl there is a huge probability magiging street child lang yan, deprived of proper education, respect from society, necessity for survival like decent food, and clean drink. he/she's as if in a living hell.
on an objective and economic perspective, bababa ang population natin. that's fewer mouths to feed and we can save up on our scarce resources. the parents would have a better chance to save up on money since this implies lesser cost for the household. jeez, sobra sobra na nga tao sa pilipinas dadagdagan pa nila ng unwanted births.
i may sound brutal in my points and i'd like to apologize to those who i'd offend but we must face reality. hindi titino ang ekonomiya natin kng pilit parin nating pinahihirapan ang ating mga sarili.
opinions are always welcome. hope i gave an insight, fafi eroz.
man of war - July 22, 2006 12:30 PM (GMT)
im not really religious but i believe that anything that can be considered as a form of abortion is immoral and therefore must not be implemented... its the fault of the persons involve anyway in the firstplace.. if they did not want to have a child then they should have done sex safely(i.e use condoms)
tenggy - July 22, 2006 03:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (silent @ Jul 22 2006, 06:54 PM) |
poor kid. but what can i say, the parents never really wanted him/her. might as well put him/her out of his/her misery. kpg lumaki pa yan, e lalo lang mahihirapan yan dhl there is a huge probability magiging street child lang yan, deprived of proper education, respect from society, necessity for survival like decent food, and clean drink. he/she's as if in a living hell.
on an objective and economic perspective, bababa ang population natin. that's fewer mouths to feed and we can save up on our scarce resources. the parents would have a better chance to save up on money since this implies lesser cost for the household. jeez, sobra sobra na nga tao sa pilipinas dadagdagan pa nila ng unwanted births.
i may sound brutal in my points and i'd like to apologize to those who i'd offend but we must face reality. hindi titino ang ekonomiya natin kng pilit parin nating pinahihirapan ang ating mga sarili. |
pardon my harshness, but frankly, i think that in an effort to be realistic, you've forgotten to take into consideration that in society there exists a thing called ethics. your argument equates to suggesting killing people (technically) as a solution to overpopulation and the philippines' dropping economy.
the more ethical solution to unwanted children lies in prevention and not in finding a solution when it's already there. as i said earlier:
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| ok lang sana if that's the only way to control overpopulation and unwanted children, pero hindi eh.. |
i agree with what man of war said. kung maaksidente naman kayo, well you took the risk. and you can't make the world turn the other way round just because you made a mistake. you knew the consequences and took the risk, unfortunate for you to fall on the less lucky side.. but that's life.
Sweet Revenge - July 23, 2006 06:19 AM (GMT)
abortion, fine with me.
IF
the life of teh woman is in danger due to her incapabilities of bearing a child.
pero kung gagamitin lang dahil sa unwated baby yung dinadala nya, NEvER!
ano mas important, ang sangol na di pa maisisilang o ang nanay na mamatay kasama ang sangol?
silent - July 23, 2006 09:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tenggy @ Jul 22 2006, 11:40 PM) |
| QUOTE | pardon my harshness, but frankly, i think that in an effort to be realistic, you've forgotten to take into consideration that in society there exists a thing called ethics. your argument equates to suggesting killing people (technically) as a solution to overpopulation and the philippines' dropping economy.
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there is a limit to what i'm suggesting. i'm nost saying killing everyone (technically). i considered the fact that these kids have no consciousness of reality so far, whatsoever. and while they are still at that stage, we might as well continue with the abortion as long as the consent of the parents are there. it would be voluntary on the part of the parents, who understand reality much better compared to the child so i'm guessing it would not be wrong.
street children though they are still young, is now a different case. killing them would be plain murder because they now have a concept of reality. so while its still early being in the womb of the mother, i'd rather prefer the killing being done there. i guess that would be ethical for me...
tenggy - July 23, 2006 02:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (silent @ Jul 23 2006, 05:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (tenggy @ Jul 22 2006, 11:40 PM) | | QUOTE | pardon my harshness, but frankly, i think that in an effort to be realistic, you've forgotten to take into consideration that in society there exists a thing called ethics. your argument equates to suggesting killing people (technically) as a solution to overpopulation and the philippines' dropping economy.
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there is a limit to what i'm suggesting. i'm nost saying killing everyone (technically). i considered the fact that these kids have no consciousness of reality so far, whatsoever. and while they are still at that stage, we might as well continue with the abortion as long as the consent of the parents are there. it would be voluntary on the part of the parents, who understand reality much better compared to the child so i'm guessing it would not be wrong.
street children though they are still young, is now a different case. killing them would be plain murder because they now have a concept of reality. so while its still early being in the womb of the mother, i'd rather prefer the killing being done there. i guess that would be ethical for me...
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the ethics i'm talking about does not concern their degree of consciousness about the world, but rather the fact that even as early as that, they already possess some degree of human life.
manz214 - July 24, 2006 04:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sweet Revenge @ Jul 23 2006, 02:19 PM) |
abortion, fine with me.
IF
the life of teh woman is in danger due to her incapabilities of bearing a child.
pero kung gagamitin lang dahil sa unwated baby yung dinadala nya, NEvER! |
i agree but still the parents still have the choice to choose between the life of the baby or the mother.
nway, i would say it is still a breakthrough in R&D, but for me, im against abortion. The fault is still on the actions done by the parents and not by the child. In the first place, baby/fetus jst dont pop out from a woman's womb without sex being done. So if people get engaged with it or if they have sex safely, then there wont be a baby/fetus present.
Using it to control population? wat a sissy way to get away from a problem. That child is a result of the pleasure u enjoyed, dapat panindigan m yan. If it b my way, id rather hang the parents :pwn3d: and save the baby kng pwede lng sana. In the first place the parents are the ones who's making all the mistakes.
baby fel - July 24, 2006 04:01 PM (GMT)
Think of it this way...
Scenario 1:
Teenage couple, both students, both rely on parent's allowance for money, girl gets pregnant, guy panics, couple talked...
GIRL: "hon, di pa ko ready na magkaron ng baby"
BOY: "hon, ako din papatayin ako ng parents ko, and I know ilalayo ka nila sakin"
GIRL: "oonga hon, and I know we CANNOT GIVE this baby the proper life, for sure itataksil tayo ng pamilya natin.
Scenario 2:
Mid-20's couple, both eats 3 times a day ONLY. Girl gets pregnant,
GIRL: "hon, I'm pregnant"
BOY: "sh*t! ano ipapakain natin dyan kung tayo nga nagugutuman ano mangyayari satin?"
GIRL: oo nga naman!
Scenario 3:
Couple lives in a prominent family, BUT thinks of their future
GIRL: "Hon, naku di pa ko graduate preggy na ko, pano toh, paano ang career ko, di naman ako pwde maging house wife nlang,di ako tatangapin sa work ko kung buntis ako"
BOY: "hon, lahat ng bagay na binigay sakin ng parents ko babawiin, ayaw ko naman mangyari yun, kasi maging HATE na tayo ng parents natin"
See what I mean?
I know having sex with your girlfriend or boyfriend is a SIN, not unless you two are married. Why? Because if both of you just rely on your parent's allowance how will you buy the diapers, the crib, the toys, the milk, the blankies and all those baby stuff that your child will be needing? Not unless you're FILTHY rich and OKAY LANG SA PARENTS nyo na mabuntis ka. Pero isipin niyo nlang, kung hindi niyo din naman mabibigyan ng MAGANDANG kinabukasan ang bata, and kung i-curse niyo na lang yung bata, kesyo "KASALANAN MO KAYA WALA AKONG TRABAHO, kaya tayo naghihirap and all that crap.
I know that having sex is a sin.
Getting pregnant is another sin.
and Aborting a fetus is a mortal sin,
for it kills an innocent child. That's murder.
But, with the crisis that almost everybody is experiencing, its not a good idea to become a TEENAGE MOTHER.
Oh yes, and NOT ALL PILLS can abort a baby, you might just want to know that. Kasi I have a classmate who has a older sister, she wanted to abort the baby kasi TEENAGER pa sila pareho, she drank every medicine she could, tapos hindi naman nalag-lag yung baby (malakas yung kapit) so wala siyang magawa, ngayon malaki na yung kid, mga 5 na cguro, and everytime she sees her child talagang umiiyak siya, and nag-sorry siya parati, kasi tinangka mong ilaglag di naman nalaglag. Ala na ko balita kung kamusta na yung baby, ang sabi sa kanya ng doctor, pag laki laki pa daw dun makita yung effect ng gamot. (scary :wavecry: )
I have a friend, masyado siyang fertile, almost everytime na mag make love sila ng boyfriend niya, preggy siya, sobrang daming beses na nya umiinom ng pills. But then when she got married, she wanted a child, nahirapan siya makabuo, kasi parang laging nahuhulog yung bata (not intentionally, but it shows the LONG TERM EFFECT of the pills) 8 years from now na tong story na toh, ala parin sya baby. /sob