Title: A LETTER TO THE COMMUNITY:
Description: regarding the resigning admins
*Euphoria* - July 10, 2006 06:34 AM (GMT)
A LETTER TO THE COMMUNITY:
People have different perceptions on how they should handle the forums. But remember, that they themselves, the core admin team, have originally created this forums (and technically speaking they own it). This gives them inherent and legal rights to it.
Posters here are basically free to post in “THEIR” forums.
However, (believe it or not) in the span of a year or so, they’ve been nothing but “lenient” compassionate and simply patient with even the most illogical abusive undisciplined or arrogant (yes those who think they know best how to run things when they are primarily “merely” normal posters) types.
Admins/Mods DESERVE more than “CRITICISMS”.
The great irony is that, these admins or mods you continually bash are the best the community has. Without them the boards will be in far more chaotic and crappy place considering the type of general population that swarm in here. If you truly believe in helping the community, then your contribution should be in supporting them not in pressuring them.
They simply DESERVE your “COOPERATION”.
As to the question why they should deserve such things. Of course they are not perfect beings, nor omnipotent ones of course, however more than anyone and any group. . .
THEY HAVE “BLED AND SACRIFICED” for the community.
In all aspects of board management from technical expertise and to the deliberation of policies or agendas affecting the community, they have clearly DEVOTED their own TIME and EFFORTS. Nonetheless,
The general COMMUNITY has always lacked to give their “APPRECIATION” with a few exceptions.
Then again you cannot anymore EXPECT these things from a group who will never recognize any kind of AUTHORITY.
As for me, Thank you admins mods. You’ve made my life easier. Finally, you are all moving on. I am HAPPY for you guys.
tontontapia - July 10, 2006 08:42 AM (GMT)
i share the same toughts with Euphoria
Euphoria.... Maui.... di ko alam ang galing mo pala mag english...
nakaka iyak ka naman maui... ang tagal na tayo mag ka kilala.. di ko pa narining na nag english ka!
Ocelot - July 10, 2006 09:25 AM (GMT)
so free for all n ung boards? wala ng awatan s mga away?
Jemski - July 10, 2006 09:27 AM (GMT)
Mukhang iba sinasabi nitong screenie i got from somewhere.
And there's more..
Same sentiments pa rin ba?
Dauphin - July 10, 2006 10:37 AM (GMT)
RenZ - July 10, 2006 10:48 AM (GMT)
kklungkot nman, pero hats off pa din ako sa mga mod d2 kc they managed this place from their own free will
dun sa mga masasakit magsalita, as if kayo nagpapalamon sa lahat ng tao na nand2 sa boards
be nice if you want to be respected, pero sana yung pagiging nice hindi pagiging plastik
hayaan nyo po, i still believe in KARMA
Q:so this boards wil be open until when? wala ata gusto mag admin d2, bka sila gusto nila lolx :rofl:
Calx Zinra - July 10, 2006 10:59 AM (GMT)
Euphoria,
sino ka ba? lumalabas ka lang pag may issue e. you smell like an alternative account. you registered the day before the "cheating" incident, you were just there to amplify the so-called "trial by publicity"
Father_Fritz888 - July 10, 2006 11:05 AM (GMT)
@ RenZ
Wala pa open date eh.. tsaka di pa settled sa plans.. wait na lang for further announcement ^_^
Para sa mga flamers: Carpe Diem!!! \:D/
***edit***
naunahan ako ni calx amph hahahaha..
tontontapia - July 10, 2006 11:06 AM (GMT)
i was pissed off when i posted that in our boards. i was under the knowledge that was supposed to be our safe haven.
im sorry for speaking without watching my words of what i say.
i was mad.
after that i got to know other mods personally. heard thier sides in real life.
am i not allowed to change my view anymore?
*the fact remain that i posted my angry tots outside of this forum. the forum i was made to believe was secure, i let my guard down. i made a mistake. again im sorry for what i posted before.
[bryan]`h - July 10, 2006 11:08 AM (GMT)
lols nman sad to say ang dme "PALANG" plastic
just got home from school at eto ang mbbsa ko..
ang titino dto pero sa sarile nilang boards lols.... /...
@mods
i just wanna thank all of u for doing such a great job.... mdlas nman kse audience lng ako kya di ako nababan :rofl: gudluck sa inyong lahat :lol:
@topic
contradicting nman .... "the mods deserve more than criticism" eh who the hell in the first place gives them this criticism of being bias and etc... think of it.....
Dauphin - July 10, 2006 11:10 AM (GMT)
tonton tapia and we understand your sentiments. and i only posted it to prove that we aren't biased. we are professional at what we do. we value free speech and we never took it against you.
i'm glad to hear how you changed. pero can you say the same thing with the other members of this board? na they are as enlightened as you?
Jemski - July 10, 2006 11:14 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE ([bryan`h @ Jul 10 2006, 07:08 PM) |
]lols nman sad to say ang dme "PALANG" plastic just got home from school at eto ang mbbsa ko.. ang titino dto pero sa sarile nilang boards lols.... /...
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Hehehe.
Marami pang boards jan na pwede mainfiltrate ng mga assets namin.
So far,yan ang worse display of attitude and character.
Would you believe,kami kami(mga mods at admins) nag away dahil jan?Kasi iba-iba ang gustong maging end result.
Buti nalang mabait ako. /gg
As far as i know,isa sa mga persons jan.Gumawa pa nga ng thread entitled "Thank you mods/admins" sa MISC SECTION.Sadly,nabura dahil sa sama ng loob.Pa thank you thank you pa nalalaman,nanunuklaw pala pag nakatalikod.
But being good citizens,we allowed them to spread their hipocrisy dito.
kiss^^, - July 10, 2006 11:19 AM (GMT)
Aray dami ata nabubulgar
tingnan natin kung anu magiging hitsura ng boardz na 2 kung wla na nag momoderate.
or worse baka d na natin makita or makapasok d2 by 2morrow /kis adios Azzholess (Plastic Arrogant bitches)
Sidious - July 10, 2006 11:24 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lucien LaCroix @ Jul 10 2006, 06:37 PM) |
hmmmm
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ofcourse this would be my personal favorite. :woot:
no worries though, i don't keep grudges. :wave:
Jemski - July 10, 2006 11:25 AM (GMT)
@Advice to some
Wag nyo nalang gatungan.React but dont flamebait.(as if Admin pa ako)
Its an issue Admins/Mods(former/current) wants some resolution.
Yeah even though they are BAD,they're human also.Respect them for you might be repeating the same mistake they have committed
@others
YOu brought this on yourselves.Dont expect them treating you nicely.
But you already have my forgiveness..A LOOONG TIME ago.
Calx Zinra - July 10, 2006 11:27 AM (GMT)
ok it's pointless to defend ourselves. it'll make no difference, me thinks. :(
kyuzo - July 10, 2006 11:45 AM (GMT)
what's done is done, di na maibabalik yun. nagkasakitan na ng damdamin, nagkasiraan na ng tiwala...
can the others put themselves in our shoes back then? ano kaya yung ginawa nila? we waited for something, a confrontation or something to settle issues and differences, we waited for 4(?) months. i gues i could say we waited in vain.
anyways i don't feel the same feelings i did when i first knew of the incident, in fact i got to know some of the people there personally (since they joined tempest), had a few drinks with them, and i've forgiven them. afterall, people do change overtime. ^_^
and yes, i am happy because they changed, and am thankful for everyone who cared. :)
Angelsnite - July 10, 2006 11:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
As far as i know,isa sa mga persons jan.Gumawa pa nga ng thread entitled "Thank you mods/admins" sa MISC SECTION.Sadly,nabura dahil sa sama ng loob.Pa thank you thank you pa nalalaman,nanunuklaw pala pag nakatalikod.
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Parang kilala ko yun a.. may sariling bandila ata yun. /heh /heh
Hehehe.. seriously, you people should lighten up.
@mods and admins
Hindi naman ata naka-include sa rules and regulations ng boards that people who post here can't criticize or even flame you guys in their own boards right? When you manage a community as large and as sleazy as RO folk, you're bound to encounter lotsa people who'd disagree with you. Like you said, you wanted to maintain a sense of professionalism kaya hindi nyo sila niresbakan. Actually, ano kaya ang mangyayari pag niresbakan nyo nga sila? A lot of people here would see your actions as unjust and power crazy, a lot of people here would leave and probably make their own messageboard. That chism would be entirely contrary to the goals that you probably had when you created this messageboards.
In other words, you weren't being professional out of the kindness of your hearts but rather out of neccesity. Now, I'm not saying that that's a bad thing. In fact, I applaude you guys for doing a decent enough job. There are a lot of moderators/admin that are commendable in their efforts to maintain this boards but reading up on what the people Cinder Fury quoted said and relating it to my own experiences, I can't say that they don't have any reason to be pissed off at you guys.
The point of the matter is this: This messageboard exists as it does because of your conscious efforts to make it so. I think it's safe for me to say that we are free to think and talk about you in any manner we choose outside this messageboard. I don't think Xalazias has done anything wrong in as far as her the things she had said are concerned. As far as "kaplastikan" issues are concerned, there's "plastik" and then there's being civil. It's common in structures where different ideals conflict for members of the opposing ideas to remain civil despite their differences. Not telling someone to his face what you think is wrong with him can be interpreted as politeness in as much likelihood as it could be interpreted as "kaplastikan".
Dauphin - July 10, 2006 11:56 AM (GMT)
angelsnite if you cant take the heat don't enter the kitchen. it's not being civil. being civil is when you do not personally make a scene over an issue and decide to over look it or confront the person in a well mannered approach. ang plastikan is pag kaharap mo ang tao iba sinasabi pero pag nakatalikod ka iba din sinasabi.
if she has issues with us she should have told us. ano magagawa ng mga sinabihan nya about her alleged problems with us? wala naman diba? parang yung mga tao sa pinas who bitch and whine but not address the issue.
and it's different. xalxias was a member of the admin team. she was part management equal to yours truly and the other admins and board officers. i hope you understand that we never take it against them that they were saying mean stuff about us. what i can't fathom is that another admin chose to stab us at the back when we were supposed to be family. yun lang. professional relationships are also involved here.
Angelsnite - July 10, 2006 12:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| if she has issues with us she should have told us. ano magagawa ng mga sinabihan nya about her alleged problems with us? wala naman diba? parang yung mga tao sa pinas who bitch and whine but not address the issue. |
Still doesn't take her right to say it to them away, neither does it mean that she did anything wrong. On the part of being with the management, you have a point. Being part of the admin does mean having responsibilities to the admin, like you can't openly talk bad about the place you're working for and stuff like that. But then if that's the case, why all this drama? You could have resolved the matter professionaly (and discreetly) by talking about it yourselves. The mentality of waiting for someone who has grievances to open it up before addressing it is flawed. You should have brought it up with her and gave her sanctions as necessary if her actions warranted it. That would have been professional.
D-GROHL - July 10, 2006 12:18 PM (GMT)
TO Jemski
d kaplastikan yun...wtf..
what transpired during those times was because of guildwars...
eh kung feel mo na tinamaan ka sa mga sinabi dun wala ako magawa
and kung pinersonal mo ung issue na un pasensya na kaya lang nangyari
mga yun kc nag kainitan d2....
furthermore i dont have any problems with you...bat gusto mo gawan
ng problema? tinira ba kita? that forum was an outlet for mayhem peeps
to cast out any frustrations they might have...
isa lang nakabangga ko dito and its sidious lang i dont recall that
we exchange harsh words...gusto mo ngyn pa?
anyway matagal na yan na issue ive forgotten about it....i think we all
forgotten about it....ang masama lang bat ngyn pa ito lumabas
who gave that screenies?
kaplastikan? jemski?
youre dead wrong...
Angelsnite!
haha long time...d pa tapos bandila ko nyahahaha
Jemski - July 10, 2006 12:21 PM (GMT)
Did someone see me post the word plastic?aside from this one?
Did I mention anyone's name?
Dauphin - July 10, 2006 12:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Angelsnite @ Jul 10 2006, 08:16 PM) |
Still doesn't take her right to say it to them away, neither does it mean that she did anything wrong. On the part of being with the management, you have a point. Being part of the admin does mean having responsibilities to the admin, like you can't openly talk bad about the place you're working for and stuff like that. But then if that's the case, why all this drama? You could have resolved the matter professionaly (and discreetly) by talking about it yourselves. The mentality of waiting for someone who has grievances to open it up before addressing it is flawed. You should have brought it up with her and gave her sanctions as necessary if her actions warranted it. That would have been professional. |
i'm not saying i'm right and i'm not saying i'm wrong. and since most of the admins and mods here have resigned they need not be constraint with being professional with our jobs because it's not our job anymore. we did our job well till the last and now we are free. wala na yung contraints namin to speak our mind. we are just excercising our rights to speak out and ue the freedom of speech just like the other members of this board.
D-GROHL - July 10, 2006 12:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Jemski @ Jul 10 2006, 08:21 PM) |
Did someone see me post the word plastic?aside from this one? Did I mention anyone's name? |
well bug off!
i dont hide. if you have any problems with me then say it to my face
why quote me? base on your quote that im being plastic...thats not
very difficult to understand....
damn
Calx Zinra - July 10, 2006 12:29 PM (GMT)
I'm kinda glad to have left them.
I kinda hate their God-Syndrome & Superiority Complex.
ayaw ko ng mentality nila. btw, nagsamasama daw uli sila lol
dreytus - July 10, 2006 12:29 PM (GMT)
hmmm... i know that i don't really post here that much so most people don't know me...
let me just say, i thank the admins and mods truly from the bottom of my heart... i, for one, know a bit how it feels like to be an admin.... take note that i said "a bit" only because in one boards that i am active in, i am only a staff member which is like a middle position in the boards unlike admin/mod it doesn't have authority and stuff but unlike a regular member, there are stuff that we can do...
I also congratulate the admins and mods in this forum for keeping this board up for a long time which is a big achievement considering the personality and/or mentality of most filipinoes... i am not one to criticize but in any community, game, or the like i have joined in which filipinoes dominate, it is chaotic and hard to manage... the boards i am a staff in is international so i have it easy there since people there are more tolerable... but you have to understand that in maintaining something like this which you guys have created out of nothing and managed for i don't know how long, you need to know that besides being unbiased in your work and being understanding, you need to consider the feelings of people... i am guessing that most of the people that you mentioned which bad-mouthed you are the people who are active in this forums, are they not? being that they are active in the forums, when something bad happens to them and you or another admin is the cause of it, you need to explain why that happened... of course, since you already get flamed in the guild boards as you have mentioned and you know it already, why stand by and watch when you can do something about it? explain in their guild boards why that happened and if they do not accept your explanation, then that's when you wait since you have already done something...
I am not saying that it is entirely your guys fault, it is also the fault of the people who flamed in their respective guild boards... if something happened to their personal account because of an admin/mod, why not create a new one and ask for an explanation? if you're angry, why flame? flaming does not do anybody any good... sure, you might feel satisfied for the moment or for quite a while but the thing about flaming is, if it is not stopped, it could go on for a long time especially if somebody joins you...
anyways, its not like im preventing you guys from quitting... go ahead and do it if you like... actually, i recommend it... you guys took your respective positions because you guys felt that you could handle the responsibilities, advantages, disadvantages and all that stuff that comes with it... you guys should know the moment that you had that position, you guys got the good things that comes with it along with the bad things too... as i believe, "yin and yang", though good is good, there is also some bad that comes along with it, no matter how small or how unnoticable it may be...
well, last thing i have to say, good bye and good luck with your personal lives... i am sure that it has been hard for you guys maintaining your position and the responsibilities that comes with it and the time that was wasted in "overseeing" every aspect of the boards... sorry if any of you guys might be offended but i would only like to point out that i take no side and i am only neutral... i just wanted to express my opinion, that is all... :p
*Euphoria* - July 10, 2006 12:34 PM (GMT)
"It is not the critic who counts. Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause. Who at the best, knows in the end the trimph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, at least falls while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Jemski - July 10, 2006 12:35 PM (GMT)
Hay ewan ko sau.
Tignan mo nga mabuti mga posts ko.THe only person i quoted was bryan h`
~kyl~ - July 10, 2006 12:36 PM (GMT)
some people are so idealistic- given a mirror they find themselves PERFECT to the MAX! :worthy:
D-GROHL - July 10, 2006 12:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Jemski @ Jul 10 2006, 07:14 PM) |
| QUOTE ([bryan`h @ Jul 10 2006, 07:08 PM) | ]lols nman sad to say ang dme "PALANG" plastic just got home from school at eto ang mbbsa ko.. ang titino dto pero sa sarile nilang boards lols.... /...
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Hehehe. Marami pang boards jan na pwede mainfiltrate ng mga assets namin. So far,yan ang worse display of attitude and character. Would you believe,kami kami(mga mods at admins) nag away dahil jan?Kasi iba-iba ang gustong maging end result.
Buti nalang mabait ako. /gg
As far as i know,isa sa mga persons jan.Gumawa pa nga ng thread entitled "Thank you mods/admins" sa MISC SECTION.Sadly,nabura dahil sa sama ng loob.Pa thank you thank you pa nalalaman,nanunuklaw pala pag nakatalikod.
But being good citizens,we allowed them to spread their hipocrisy dito.
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As far as i know,isa sa mga persons jan.Gumawa pa nga ng thread entitled "Thank you mods/admins" sa MISC SECTION.Sadly,nabura dahil sa sama ng loob.Pa thank you thank you pa nalalaman,nanunuklaw pala pag nakatalikod.
pasimple ka lang....why would you say that? coz i got a problem with sidous?
why "As far as i know,isa sa mga persons jan"
omg sarap ka sabihan ng F word pero wag na lang me konting repeto pa
natitira para sayo...intindihin mo uli ung mga sinasabi mo...
eroz - July 10, 2006 12:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Jemski @ Jul 10 2006, 07:14 PM) |
As far as i know,isa sa mga persons jan.Gumawa pa nga ng thread entitled "Thank you mods/admins" sa MISC SECTION.Sadly,nabura dahil sa sama ng loob.Pa thank you thank you pa nalalaman,nanunuklaw pala pag nakatalikod. |
actually the only thread i see thanking the mods as a title is the one i made. and yes, of course, nandun ako sa boards namin but i don't see my self stabbing anyone behind their backs.
Vahn - July 10, 2006 12:41 PM (GMT)
weeee... reply muna kau sa anime section kng san ma DL ung trinity blood.. bago iclose boards please T_T
Aversion - July 10, 2006 12:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Aversion @ Jul 10 2006, 08:39 PM) |
| I nominate Jemski and Mia as Iris' Grand couple. |
QUOTED FOR THIS BOARD'S JUSTICE!
Calx Zinra - July 10, 2006 12:46 PM (GMT)
*Euphoria* - July 10, 2006 12:48 PM (GMT)
"Pay no attention to what the critics say; no statue has ever been put up to a critic. "
dharma - July 10, 2006 12:49 PM (GMT)
:cry: why am i the unofficial menyak of the year? :cry:
- just kidding -
whatever happens, i thank all of you for everything that the boards has done for me. i know medyo natatamaan ako about the guild thread thingies but i did my best to contain my guildmates' emotional outbursts. i am sorry in behalf of macworld clan if we have been part of your burden lately. /sry
i wish you all good luck.
Sidious - July 10, 2006 12:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Aversion @ Jul 10 2006, 08:46 PM) |
| QUOTED FOR THIS BOARD'S JUSTICE! |
| QUOTE (Aversion @ Jul 10 2006, 08:39 PM) |
| I nominate Jemski and Mia as Iris' Grand couple. |
DOUBLE QUOTE FOR THE TIKOYS!
Aversion - July 10, 2006 12:50 PM (GMT)
Jemski would also like to thank everyone who provided him cyber arousal in his time of need.
Jack - July 10, 2006 12:52 PM (GMT)
Vahn - July 10, 2006 12:54 PM (GMT)