Dead.

Has anyone else noticed how CS is kind of dead?
Seems to me like no one ever posts that much anymore. Maybe it's just me but we should do something exciting. Advertising perhaps? We need something like a referral contest or a quality posting thing.

There's hardly any spriting activity going on and even the Potpourri is kind of dead.

PMF's going through something similar (and has been for a while)
I think Pokémon spriting is fading out a bit. Even though CS is a lot more general-pixelart oriented, it still has the whole 'pokemon spriting' vibe.

we've all just kinda grown out of it

if more people would just use their imagination and make something out of it, we'd have more activity

how many non-pokemon related original characters do we even have?

doesn't even have to be characters, just more pixel-art than just "spriting"

This post has been edited by Sharkeh on Sep 1 2008, 04:31 AM

Well Hark still sprites, and that's all you really need, so why complain?

we really do value more original and experimental PA here, or am i wrong? and if you check the tutorials section you'll see it's been really reworked to group all Pokémon related things together. we can't deny it's there either like you said, but i don't see why it would affect the more general PA :/

it's just the reputation.

we have a dex.

you post the sprites on other sites and people come here wanting to sprite Pokémon... :/

That.

define "you"... what ya wanna do? ban Pokémon spriting?

That's the same problem PMF is having.
The solution is simple: get more people to do non-Pokemon stuff.
I don't know how to go about that though. =/
Get rid of the dex and replace it with some kind of game/contest/original character thingy?

Wait, what's wrong with Pokémon Spriting?

Hah. I predicted a CS apocalypse a few weeks ago. The real problem is the lack of original and new CS trends. What I mean is, I remember when people used to inspire each other. We've all lost our ability to be inspired, it would seem. We need projects for multiple people, and things to do. We should work on game or something. Like the Gold and Silver remake that never really worked out. We could make it work this time, and we should make it work this time. We should dig deep and come up with something. How ever, should Hercules fight back, we will fail.

Also, I still like Pokémon spriting. I have a great ideas, I believe, and am working on a dex.

This post has been edited by megazee on Sep 1 2008, 11:08 PM

define "you"... what ya wanna do? ban Pokémon spriting?

you as in, everyone who wants to expand their fame past CS

megazee, that's the problem
EVERYONE is working on a dex

when was the last time a non-pokemon project was started?

maybe we should revive the already dead section of contests.

advertising. and, as risky as it sounds, i think we should lower the post count required to see the projects and member's collections. without them, we're more or less on par with the dime-a-dozen forums. it makes it hard for all newbies to want to stick around, not just the potential thieves.

This post has been edited by Aviculor on Sep 2 2008, 01:44 AM

can we make the forums visible, but not the images?

would that solve the problems?

Not possible on an invisionfree or zetaboards site. I looked into on my own board. Won't work. If its possible, you need to make a code that is special for that makes it so that members under a cretain postcount can't view images in a certain forum.

plus, wouldn't that defeat the entire purpose...?
Usually people don't look at a sprite topice to just read.

As said before, casti made a contest months ago.

It was ignored.

What's the point of reviving it if no one's even going to participate?

Not possible on an invisionfree or zetaboards site. I looked into on my own board. Won't work. If its possible, you need to make a code that is special for that makes it so that members under a cretain postcount can't view images in a certain forum.

actually, yeah it is.
ACP > System Settings > User Profiles > Guest Settings > Allow GUESTS to view posted images? > No.
although, this would stop all images. and not just one forum.

but i don't like the idea.

define "you"... what ya wanna do? ban Pokémon spriting?

you as in, everyone who wants to expand their fame past CS

megazee, that's the problem
EVERYONE is working on a dex

when was the last time a non-pokemon project was started?

Why expand fame past CS? We have the best spriters. I know because I'm a member of Spriter's Block. I've seen the stuff there, and our sprites are better. But I digress. What's the point of having the respect of other forums? What's better than the respect of the best. The respect of Us? Us meaning we CS members. People like Aocom and Sharkeh and many, many more are better than the professionals. Some of us aren't the best yet, but we will be, because we'll practice a digital art form that is widely unexplored and unexploited. We are the best forum. We are the best spriters. We are all smart, and We need to come up with a plan to save CS.

I know we all appreciate CS, and we don't want it to go. Like I said, we are generally smart here. I'm smart, you're smart. Why don't we put our nerdy big brains to work?

Everyone's working on a dex? There's only like 5 active. I'm still in the drawing and ideas.

I agree we need more projects that involve our members. When I got here, and you guys were working on the GS remakes, everyone was doing something. If they weren't working on that, they were spriting there own things. Maybe we haven't really lost our ability to be inspired. Maybe it's lying dormant inside us. I believe the source of our woe might be popular culture. We have nothing to be inspired by. No. Maybe the problem is us. Maybe we haven't lost our ability to be inspired, but maybe it's our fault. We used to inspire each other. When I saw other members' sprites, it made me want to sprite. I'm sure it made you want to, too. If we can dig deep, and find something to sprite, I'm confident that CS will once again flourish.

it worked out, revamping was doing fine, but since the game programming took time, the creator ended using as much DP material as possible (including the sprites, the old ones were just too small). what didn't work out was the translation of the game, but i wasn't involved in that, nor was CS officially (although some of our members were).

and what can we do about it? if you have an idea you're welcome to start a project sharkeh, there's those going on all over the place (and SF and i are currently helping in a DB one for example), but there's nothing local really going on :/

sounds like an option, but nothing says it's gonna work to our advantage :/

also, remember ANYONE can start a contest WHENEVER, it doesn't even have to be a "real" contest, just a fun challenge of some sort. but no one does anything and i'm personally too lazy to organize a real big contest when i know it's most likely not going to work. i invite anyone who wants to make a contest to please go on and do it, the section's there for that.

and what can we do about it? if you have an idea you're welcome to start a project sharkeh, there's those going on all over the place (and SF and i are currently helping in a DB one for example), but there's nothing local really going on :/

I was gonna

I might start a contest too.

That's a good idea, but we need to start some sort of trend so people aren't dependent on contests. For example; The cards from that SNK vs Capcom Card Battle thing were a huge trend on Spriter's Block. And I know I need something to do, so, why don't we all start making some game or something. I know I keep saying the same things, but I feel like no one's listening. Maybe we could work on a fighting game? That Epic Battle VS thing casti did was really cool.

This post has been edited by megazee on Sep 2 2008, 04:22 PM

what if we just made the sprites for a game? instead of full blown game development

I remember silver's coding didn't really go as far as it should have, and I guess that just killed the morale.

but if we made bigger, more personalized sprites it would be more attracting to other members and guests

This post has been edited by Sharkeh on Sep 2 2008, 04:28 PM

I guess that could work, but a game would still be nice, even if it's made a long time from now. But that would be nice. If a project topic was made, we could sign up to have our sprites in it. If it were based on casti's Epic Battle VS comic, someone would need to sprite them.

Also, here's a link to the Epic Battle VS thread:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/c_spriting/ind...dpost&p=4040985

This post has been edited by megazee on Sep 2 2008, 07:35 PM

Uh. I have a copy of RPG Maker XP.
I'm not too great with it but i could practice.
It's not too hard. If I had a few helpers...
idk.
School is taking up too much time right now. Perhaps on weekends and over the summer?
again, idk.

Now for homework.

How does RPG Maker make a fighting game? Unless you guys want an RPG, but taht needs more of a story, and with everyone's characters, it may be hard to do. That's why a fighting game akin to DBZ would be better. Then again, I'm afraid my sprites would fail of I signed up like I suggested we do. But we need to at least try. We need to decide if we're gonna do something, and we need the Official CS Staff Seal Of Approval.

I have an idea. I figure to include most of our members, we'd need to use a style pretty much anyone can do. So we should use the Dragonball Z: Legendary Super Warriors (GBC) style. But here's the catch: We give them shading and pretty them up. Whudda ya think?

[rflash]I have a better idea! Why don't we use the Jump! Ultimate Stars style? It's manga oriented, which is what Epic Battle is! I feel we're all good enough to make sprites in that style. Plus, it allows for a little more freedom as it's not very serious, and the characters are big enough that details can be added.[/rflash]

This post has been edited by megazee on Sep 2 2008, 11:29 PM

dude, calm down. the VS comic is my stuff and ya aint touchin' it k?

mega, seriously, i don't see why we should rely on a trend or a massive game project in order to work as a community. if you wanna do a game or anything, just go on, but it's no easy job and it's not going official just because you're hyper exited about it >.>;
plus, no more DBZ style stuff, we're free to sprite whatever we want however we want, you aren't making it better than a Pokémon project by suggesting that :/

see, i appreciate the enthusiasm, but take it easy and don't "shouldn’t sell the skin before the bear is killed".

I am calm. Alright, dude. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

It wasn't supposed to be that massive. And I'm not really that excited. I'm actually bored, lonely, and depressed. I just forgot what the Rainbow thing did. I didn't realized there was so much DBZ already. I'll have to look at it.

I'm taking it easy, but life's keepin' me down, man.

Anyway, I just thought a project might get us into the spirit again. We shouldn't rely on anything though. The reason I chose VS was because I can't think of anything myself at the moment, and I figured that it would make a good fighting game. But, like I said before;

And we obviously didn't get it. So, we'll do something else. As I said before, we're not relying on the trend or the game. It's to give us something to do while we think about what we're gonna do about this problem. We have to think of a way to be inspired again.

This post has been edited by megazee on Sep 3 2008, 12:34 AM

Meh, I think we may seem dead because people aren't as active these days due to school starting up once again. I've heard of loads of people that they have to go to school again.

On top of that, I feel that the most of the active users here have grown out of Pokémon spriting, so they won't reply to other Pokémon sprites. Or, at least, that's how I feel about it. And because of the fact that other people won't get any replies from the other active users they won't sprite anything new..
It's like a negative spiral, or so it seems..