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Posted: Jun 17 2009, 05:25 AM
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On this forum and others, I've seen the topic often approached which attempts identification of each octave of the septenary man.
What has struck me recently is a relation to the number five; divine, spiritual, mind, linga or ethereal body, and the physical body. Pranas or vital life force, and kama seem to be included within the enumeration, and thus the term septenary in speaking of the aggragative individual. I suppose the explanation could be lengthy or complex or exists for reasons with-held. Pranas is vital life force, and Jiva is the same as pranas, and if I were called upon to discern a difference, I suppose I would say that Jiva is mentioned in association with Parabrahm, as jiva is within everything, as is Parabrahm. Perhaps pranas has a less generalized denotation, as pranas is used in association with specific life forms. Kama is desire, and any life is possessed of desire even if it is instinctive. I've seen that six is seen by some as pertaining to man, while seven represents completion of man. Now I suppose I will leave digression, --latter tagged to above text-- and speculate upon telepathy. It was suggested to me that a barrier to this form of communication is described as mask's we erect when we want to hide our thoughts. Any content within a person he is compelled to hide, motivated by feelings of shame or fear of punishment or persecution, can not really be made to disappear. I suppose this is when a person makes the new man. The old man is the earlier or past history, and so I would assume a decision is made which one never departs away from. The hurdle or insurmountable obstacle would be the discovery that many things must be given-up, ended, renounced. This is where we arrive at just what it is that we believe in, concerning the death of the physical body. Those who believe death of the physical body is the end or those who know only of theological dogma, which truthfully, many don't find easy to accept in these times, wil at best only attempt to be moderate. I was going to mention the possibility of conspiracy by the powers that be, but the thought occurred to me that, in as much as we are capable, it is the mind of desire we are supposed to be working upon with the goal toward ennobling our lower mind and its consequent desires. It is kind of like the saying, don't ask for patience because it will subsequently be tested. This age is full of distraction and attractions. We are what we focus our awareness upon, and this being so, there must be a multitude of experiences, desires, and thoughts we possess and don't want to make common knowledge. So, how close am I toward accuracy in my assumptions concerning telepathy? -------------------- Per mare, per terras
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Posted: Jun 28 2009, 10:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Member No.: 541 Joined: 18-May 08 |
I'm curious as to where it may lead if I were to be general, and give two ideas concerning possible modalities of telepathy.
The first being limited to parties of individuals who are relatively few in number. I would suggest they are very knowledgeable, intelligent, and share a sameness of venues toward which their thoughts arrive upon or rather, they have a like discernment toward thought they visit, and thought they avoid for the most part. What if telepathy was not confined in this way? what if all the humanity upon this Earth suddenly had the attribute of telepathic commincation? Perhaps all of us possess this attribute. We simply do not use it, because of thought, and/or activities we engage which we feel are not worthy for sharing, and through shame, embarrassment, fear of persecution, we all possess masks, or we erect doors which are in place against intrusion of our inner being and all the thoughts we engage, and all the images we have within. I suppose if we were to classify thought as energy or if this is inadequate, and it requires a more thorough description, I suppose we must go along in a triune process or system. Hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, have been used to suggest polar forces and neutral mediums. In solid-state components we have a material which will not allow a circuit to continue through the semi-conductor material until another lower voltage engages the semi-conductor material. In this case the higher voltage must be stopped at source to turn off the circuit. In transisters, the key voltage allows for a path to be engaged between two voltages of differing values as an amplification of a circuit. But I'm going on trying to utilize electronics to analogically give illustration of my line of thought concerning telepathy, and have very little electronic circuity and component knowledge. So, I didn't arrive at my ideal which was to say energies mostly converge among other like energies. If someone was to insinuate they are ennobled, in otherwords they never suffered the pains of conscience arrived at from their being engaged within or upon low and degenerate thought, and/or activities, then they are suggesting they are much older souls, quicker learners, or have not descended into matter, and are only knowing the experience of being Divinity. In conclusion, telepathy is an ideal which is much like regular human communication; thought is still going to be engaged upon according to what level a person has reached. If certain thoughts or activities are no longer of interest to certain parties, they will not want to engage them or the people clutching onto to them too often. What is the point of telepathy when many people still harbor thought which others would only see as a waste of energy, and so only be defiled by it? I mean, I do not reject any human activity through my thinking that it is required to descend in order to ascend, I only wonder how many of these descensions are still necessary toward the purpose of experiencing, which ends in ones ennobling of all the low and degenerate, which said activities are what matures the individual. Is my above conclusion attacking the Middle Path or Pillar? if we have all lived many past lives by this point in human history, wouldn't one think that we have pretty much engaged already, every low and degenerate thought to be arrived upon or within? now this indicates I am not attacking the Middle Path. Since I now feel like I am simply running over ideas and only going in circles, I will simply stop upon the idea of polarities and semi-polarities. -------------------- Per mare, per terras
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