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 Introducing Myself, A New Member Introduces Himself
daniel.nazar
Posted: Jan 16 2011, 11:03 PM


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Hi everybody, my name is Daniel. I joined this site because one of my favorite pastimes is discussing over the Internet. In my opinion forums are a great way to exchange thoughts and even a little argument for the betterment of all involved - the nature of real-time discussion doesn't permit the same depth of thought that the staggered rate of interchange on a forum can provide.

I've been reading "The Secret Doctrine" by Madame Blavatsky. I find it fascinating. While I don't subscribe to doctrines simply because I read them, I find that occult literature in specific is a great exercise in 'mental gymnastics'. It certainly opens the mind up to greater conceptions, and it feels exhilarating to be enriched with knowledge that could only have come about through the compound work of thousands of years. "The Secret Doctrine" certainly delves into a lot more specifics than a lot of other works. Because of this, it is easier to doubt, but at the same time it thrills the imagination. I find myself curious of what other theosophists think, so here I am in your forum.

I tried out another forum for Theosophy but found that it was laden with people who were perhaps your typical "New Age"-ers. They didn't seem to even know what most theosophical literature had to say, they really just seemed to parrot a few buzz words like 'Nirvana' and 'Oneness' while proceeding to rant about some peculiar mixture of stories which they had woven into their personal beliefs. Can anyone tell me - before I go perusing this forum - is this place like that, or is the discussion more true to theosophical tenets? Either way I don't intend to criticize, nor will it affect my willingness to participate.

I hope this message finds you in good humor. I am grateful communities such as this one exist. Thanks for your time,

--Daniel
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Nick the Pilot
Posted: Jan 18 2011, 06:21 AM


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Hi Daniel and welcome to the forum.

I'm glad to hear of your interest in the Secret Doctrine. I have one thread going presently on the Secret Doctrine.

http://theosophy-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=1166

Please feel free to jump in and discuss some the ideas in the thread.

I have also put together a study guide for the Secret Doctrine.

http://users.ez2.net/nick29/theosophy/stanzas.htm

I'll be curious to hear your reactions to my ideas.

I think you'll find this Forum is more to your liking -- discussions about Theosophical ideas rather than a place for people to rant and rave. I have said that Theosophy is nothing more than a list of thousands of concepts. I hope you can find a discussion on a Theosophical topic in one of the many threads that have already been started.


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Madame Blavatsky’s aim was to rescue the archaic truths in organized religions which always become distorted and perverted as the centuries go by.
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ChristianMyst
Posted: Jan 18 2011, 08:38 AM


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I've always thought that those who believe they have a greater spiritual wisdom, deeper philosophy of God, Creation and Consciousness, and a self-perceived truer understanding of what existence means should extend a hand and share with those [New Ager's] whom one feels are remiss.

If Theosophy becomes a philosophy for intellectuals alone, or serves merely to perpetuate God complexes in people, then how is any [good] being accomplished? I've said from the first moment I stumbled onto Theosophy that there HAS GOT TO be some cohesive program to make Theosophy universally understandable, and apealable. There are so many who follow the way of Theosophy who in my opinion simply enter yet another Old Boy's Club. The world is growing my millions a day ... like it or not a move away from dogmatic religion, and an easy embrace of New Age thought (for this very reason) is the direction this new world is going. Being "right," as in rightious is keeping the masses ignorant as sure as any religon we would question who hides the truth. With so many who have been involved for countless decades in Theosophical organizations, I ASK, ... are we to become a Secret Society, or are we to shed light on the common Ancient Wisdom behind all religions and belief systems?


Welcome Daniel. You will find Theosophy-Forum to provide the greater Theosophical depth you prefer, and the occasional views of those who straddle multiple pathways.


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I draw from the group of ancient former Theosophist's points of view as much as I would from modern Theosophy and neo-Theosophy.
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daniel.nazar
Posted: Sep 16 2011, 02:52 PM


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QUOTE (Nick the Pilot @ Jan 18 2011, 06:21 AM)
Hi Daniel and welcome to the forum.

I'm glad to hear of your interest in the Secret Doctrine. I have one thread going presently on the Secret Doctrine.

http://theosophy-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=1166

Please feel free to jump in and discuss some the ideas in the thread.

I have also put together a study guide for the Secret Doctrine.

http://users.ez2.net/nick29/theosophy/stanzas.htm

I'll be curious to hear your reactions to my ideas.

I think you'll find this Forum is more to your liking -- discussions about Theosophical ideas rather than a place for people to rant and rave. I have said that Theosophy is nothing more than a list of thousands of concepts. I hope you can find a discussion on a Theosophical topic in one of the many threads that have already been started.

Hello. I got sidetracked basically all year, but I'm back. I will indeed check out your links. The theosophy-forum one doesn't seem to work for me right now...but the other to the Stanzas of Dzyan is. If this is your work, I must commend you since it is obviously quite extensive. I look forward to perusing it and refreshing my mind with all the concepts I encountered when I first started the SD... those concepts are in the distant past now, considering the length of the two volumes.
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daniel.nazar
Posted: Sep 16 2011, 02:56 PM


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QUOTE (ChristianMyst @ Jan 18 2011, 08:38 AM)
I've always thought that those who believe they have a greater spiritual wisdom, deeper philosophy of God, Creation and Consciousness, and a self-perceived truer understanding of what existence means should extend a hand and share with those [New Ager's] whom one feels are remiss.

If Theosophy becomes a philosophy for intellectuals alone, or serves merely to perpetuate God complexes in people, then how is any [good] being accomplished?  I've said from the first moment I stumbled onto Theosophy that there HAS GOT TO be some cohesive program to make Theosophy universally understandable, and apealable.  There are so many who follow the way of Theosophy who in my opinion simply enter yet another Old Boy's Club.  The world is growing my millions a day ... like it or not a move away from dogmatic religion, and an easy embrace of New Age thought (for this very reason) is the direction this new world is going.  Being "right," as in rightious is keeping the masses ignorant as sure as any religon we would question who hides the truth.  With so many who have been involved for countless decades in Theosophical organizations, I ASK, ... are we to become a Secret Society, or are we to shed light on the common Ancient Wisdom behind all religions and belief systems?


Welcome Daniel.  You will find Theosophy-Forum to provide the greater Theosophical depth you prefer, and the occasional views of those who straddle multiple pathways.

Thanks for welcoming me. Look no further than the SD -- some of us are born with a certain 'spark', others are not. I have tried many times on many different kinds of people to see how they respond to open discussion about these subjects. My own experience has taught me that you cannot introduce someone to something they are not ready for already themselves. Their mind simply won't attend to it, and no learning will take place. But those few souls I have encountered who are open to discussion and the sharing of ideas have become truly cherished companions indeed. It is a rare breed of person who is ready and willing to take on the spiritual in such depth, to pursue it to such extents as must be done...
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Nick the Pilot
Posted: Sep 18 2011, 09:59 AM


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Daniel,

You said,

"My own experience has taught me that you cannot introduce someone to something they are not ready for already themselves. Their mind simply won't attend to it, and no learning will take place."

--> I once knew a great psychic who gave me a good piece of advice. She told me that she had made the mistake a couple of times of telling people things about themselves (due to her psychic ability) and totally freaking them out in the process. So she told me her way of handling it, which was to wait and see what kinds of questions they asked, and only answer their questions if she had any question as to what they were ready for. I now take a philosophy that is similar -- I throw out little tidbits of theosophical ideas, see how people react, and I especially watch for the types of questions they ask, and use their questions as a guide as to what they are ready for.

I am reminded of one fellow who was recently asking questions about renouncing the material world and entering into a life of reflection and meditation. The mere fact that he was asking such questions showed he was ready to consider such ideas. (Of course, most people in the world are nowhere near ready to consider such questions. so that bringing up such a topic with them is a waste of time.)


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