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Is it wrong?
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No [ 4 ]  [57.14%]
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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 01:02 PM


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Why?


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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 01:21 PM


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Ah, the last taboo. I have given the matter a lot of thought, and I do not see anything intrinsically morally wrong with it, under one condition: you shouldn't have kids. This is for two reasons:

1. Birth defects. It's like smoking when pregnant, not something to do

2. Other poeple are bound to find out and there you're kid'll be teased for ever, and that's an understatement. You can get really hardcore bullying value out of a nimrod's son

Other than that, what's the problem? I might just have this stance because I have no sisters, and am not gay, but in the end screwing is screwing. Morals are chosen add-ons


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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 01:32 PM


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I agree, but would go further - I would permit them to have children. This is because, I believe the argument against birth defects does not stand. For example, someone with Huntington's Disease is allowed to have children - and in this case it is more than likely the child will also suffer it. This is true of pretty much every other genetic defect as well.

Of course people shouldn't have children - because it will be bad for the child - but I don't think it is the place of anyone to ban them from doing so.


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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 01:48 PM


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Personally, I would ban people from Huntington's disease having kids either. I appreciate that they might want kids, but at the end of the day they're being plain selfish, putting their own want before that of the child.

Same thing with AIDS: though it isn't very nice, the most blatantly logical thing to do is to get everyone with AIDS and segregate them from everyone else, or even kill them outright.

In both cases, I wouldn't enforce such a policy if I was king or whatever, because it just isn't the right thing to do. However, logically speaking, it is.


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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 01:52 PM


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I know what you mean. It makes sense, but it blows.

Intrestingly under the UDHR you could probably get away with it too...

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Article 16.

      (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.

      (2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.

      (3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.


It only bans limitations due to race, nationality and religion - though I think you could argue it would be against the spirti of the law.


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-----C. S. Lewis

Claret is the liquor for boys; port for men; but he who aspires to be a hero must drink brandy.
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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 01:59 PM


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True, but that's never stopped me before. Hmm, someone really ought to email the UN and point out the loophole...SA, can you do it?


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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 02:00 PM


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Other than the possible teasing and the non-variety of genetic code, it's not completely wrong.


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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 02:00 PM


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I doubt they would change it... Prejudice against incestuous couples remains rampant.


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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
-----C. S. Lewis

Claret is the liquor for boys; port for men; but he who aspires to be a hero must drink brandy.
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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 02:02 PM


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Devils. I'd email them myslef but I have to pack tonight (again. I had to take everything out of my suitcase when I was trying to find my ticket, only to locate it in the fridge. I must stop putting things in the fridge...)


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Posted on Mar 31 2007, 02:04 PM


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I dunno... You don't put stuff in the fridge at home do you?


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-----C. S. Lewis

Claret is the liquor for boys; port for men; but he who aspires to be a hero must drink brandy.
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