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juriko
Posted: Nov 25 2006, 08:52 PM
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when do the new high elves come out? i wuld like to see new models, they might challenge even the woodies' models! and the new list...
does anyone know?
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Posted: Nov 26 2006, 02:49 AM
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I believe that the order of re-releases was going to be Empire in January, followed by Vampire counts then High Elves after that. Apparently though, they had to push back the Vampire Counts release, so High Elves should be after Empire, not sure exactly when though.

I'm interested to see what the new High Elf book will bring as well.
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Posted: Nov 26 2006, 05:49 AM
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High Elves are coming out first because most of their models were already done. Vamps are being done from scratch.
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Posted: Nov 26 2006, 07:09 AM
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High Elves are coming out first because most of their models were already done. Vamps are being done from scratch.

i've heard the same,
high elves are more of an update, their rules need to be fixed and only some of the models will be re-done
Vampire counts on the other hand are getting a complete re-haul, even the basic undead rules could be different, and the whole template for the army might change, including rules and new units, so with such a big change vitrually every unit in the list is being re-done, and they want to take their time to do it right
so high elves will come first, since i only imagine some of the range will be re-done and they will maybe only get one new unit and a the rest will be rule-tweaks
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Posted: Nov 26 2006, 06:18 PM
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personally I think High elves need more of a re-haul of their rules than undead.

The fact that many of their units are not worth taking, makes them probably the poorest list in fantasy.

The elite troops have some great models but are just a waste of points, as are archers, and sea guard. The plastic infantry aren't that great either.

Pretty much the only way to be competitive is to take lots of cavalry and/or magic.

The undead are quite a strong list but can be a bit too manourevable for my tastes, their lists tend to be heavy on fast units like dire wolves and fell bats along with skirmishers.
Backed up by huge blocks of zombies that get enlarged every turn.

They need some way to make undead less reliant on magic and their general staying "alive".
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juriko
Posted: Nov 26 2006, 06:41 PM
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the high elves' spearmen fight in 3 ranks
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Posted: Nov 26 2006, 10:22 PM
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Ive also been hearing high elves after empire, but until we have concrete info we cant be for sure.
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WinterGuardian
Posted: Dec 21 2006, 05:57 PM
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sorry if this counts as necromancy, but it seems related to the topic
High Elf Rumour Roundup on Warseer
so there it is for people interested in the new high elves, i think it's pretty interesting
things got pretty heated over there at warseer, their main rumour guy got chewed apart for posting that thing about 'white lion pulled chariots' and since he was treated so bad he refuses to post rumours on warseer anymore
so that's all of it
enjoy
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Altithir
Posted: Dec 21 2006, 06:08 PM
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Thanks for the link.

I cant wait for the return of the High Elves. They are one of my favourite fantasy armies, and although they were good when their book was released, all other armies since have been way better. Hopefully the new models will be good too.

Also, a chariot pulled by White Lions? Sweet!
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WinterGuardian
Posted: Dec 21 2006, 06:13 PM
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Also, a chariot pulled by White Lions? Sweet!

that's what i thought!
Dark Elves get get the cool Cold One Chariot, High Elves get a lion pulled one

i thought it was a great idea, but there were a lot of people on the warseer thread that said it was 'stupid and unfluffly' because white lions are too violent to be controlled to pull a chariot
one guy even said he was going to sell his high elf army if the model got released

people like that need to grow up
it's called warhammer 'fantasy' for a reason, it's in a 'fantasy' realm
they should have open minds and be open to creative idea's because it will only make the game better

ok, end rant, lol

but anyway, i'm also excited for the new book Altithir,
it sounds like it's going to turn out really well
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Posted: Dec 27 2006, 05:57 PM
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um, I can see why the chariot was picked apart, lets see, chariots are from Tiranoc, Chance is a mountainous region, and the Lions get killed by the elves as an initiation they don't like them. Why strap them on a chariot?

The only point worthy unit is Swordmasters of Hoeth, 13 pints, and kill everything.

High Elves MUST have an update soon!!!!! Wait a minute, that means I will have to spend more money on new High Elf models. NOOOOOOO!!!!!

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Posted: Dec 27 2006, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (WinterGuardian @ Dec 22 2006, 07:13 AM)
one guy even said he was going to sell his high elf army if the model got released

Lol, that's a little over the top. A white lion pulling a chariot would be pretty awesome though. I have always liked high elves as a fantasy army too, so seeing the army revamped will be interesting.

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Posted: Dec 27 2006, 07:45 PM
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I thought the lion chariot was just going to be a cool special charcter?

Anyway you can explain pretty much anything you want in warhammer with 1 word, MAGIC!

The high elves are 1 of the most magical of races so they could easily have any creature they want pulling their chariots, just say it's been bound by spells.

I can't wait for the 10th edition High elf list with a chariot pulled by 100 hawks biggrin.gif

Back on topic, what do people think about the rumours of high elves getting "strikes 1st" for their troops, I've heard all infantry will get it unless they come with great weapons, though it seems to be hotly contested.

I can't see this fitting the fluff very well if high elven spearmen get it for free whilst wardancers have to sacrifice an attack and only dark elf assasins get it in their list.
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Lynx
Posted: Dec 28 2006, 12:24 AM
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That seems a bit far fetched to me. Unless they made the infantry really expensive, that would make units like Spearmen mighty broken.

I guess we'll find out whether its true soon enough, but my bet is that its a rumor.
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Altithir
Posted: Jan 2 2007, 11:41 AM
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Yeah, if High Elf spearmen got the first attack everytime, fighting in three ranks they would be insanely harsh. Lothern Seaguard would be even worse.

QUOTE (the anti santa @ Dec 27 2006, 07:45 PM)
Anyway you can explain pretty much anything you want in warhammer with 1 word, MAGIC!

hahaha, yeah. Like have you seen that simpsons episode when Lucy Lawless (Xena) is being asked about episode errors in her show?

A wizard did it.

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