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| QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 2 2006, 07:14 AM) | Nice list man, can I ask you a question: I'm thinking about including a special rule in my Nippon list called Honour or Death.
Do you mind if I use a rule with the word honour in it? It's different to your rule - it basically means champions and characters don't have to challenge if they don't want to, but they can't refuse a challenge (otherwise they would be disgraced and would have to commit hari-kari). However, in challenges they can re-roll failed rolls to wound. What do you think? |
call it bushido!
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| QUOTE | Nice list man, can I ask you a question: I'm thinking about including a special rule in my Nippon list called Honour or Death.
Do you mind if I use a rule with the word honour in it? It's different to your rule - it basically means champions and characters don't have to challenge if they don't want to, but they can't refuse a challenge (otherwise they would be disgraced and would have to commit hari-kari). However, in challenges they can re-roll failed rolls to wound. What do you think? |
no that's completely cool, i figured we would borrow each other's rules anyway and eventually combine certain things, and thanks for the compliment  and i like the rule, seems nipponese | QUOTE | | Or you could skip the two rank bonus.. |
really? it's one of the things that makes the army unique...
so you think i sould skip the rank bonus idea and just give the bows extra strength?
This post has been edited by WinterGuardian on Nov 2 2006, 08:50 PM
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| QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 2 2006, 12:14 PM) | Nice list man, can I ask you a question: I'm thinking about including a special rule in my Nippon list called Honour or Death.
Do you mind if I use a rule with the word honour in it? It's different to your rule - it basically means champions and characters don't have to challenge if they don't want to, but they can't refuse a challenge (otherwise they would be disgraced and would have to commit hari-kari). However, in challenges they can re-roll failed rolls to wound. What do you think? |
That rule sounds really cool.. but I assume you meant Hara Kiri, and that´s actually called Seppuku ;)
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it can be called either one, but i like seppuku (it sounds cool  ) bushido means way of the warrior, so i don't think it would work with his rule, but do what you want! |
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| QUOTE (WinterGuardian @ Nov 2 2006, 08:47 PM) | | QUOTE | | Or you could skip the two rank bonus.. |
really? it's one of the things that makes the army unique...
so you think i sould skip the rank bonus idea and just give the bows extra strength?
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Sorry, forgot to answer this. Actually yes, since the point of the strange design was to use them on horseback (and not to shoot in two ranks which you should be able to do anyway). Unfortunately you can have longbows on horseback in warhammer (should be more or less impossible  ), otherwise that could have been a brilliant idea. But yes, give them str 4 in short range, I think that would be fair (or perhaps longer range, 36"?)
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| QUOTE | | But yes, give them str 4 in short range, I think that would be fair (or perhaps longer range, 36"?) |
wow, this would perhaps even surpass woodelves, that's pretty cool
so take away the two rank bonus, and maybe give extra strength/armour piercing and extend range?
Samurai Longbow: 30'', may fire in two ranks (three on a hill), but all models firing suffer -1BS
tooo
Samurai Longbow: 36'', +1 strength at short range
do you think that is fair, those will be some pretty mean longbows
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| QUOTE (WinterGuardian @ Nov 4 2006, 04:54 PM) | | QUOTE | | But yes, give them str 4 in short range, I think that would be fair (or perhaps longer range, 36"?) |
wow, this would perhaps even surpass woodelves, that's pretty cool
so take away the two rank bonus, and maybe give extra strength/armour piercing and extend range?
Samurai Longbow: 30'', may fire in two ranks (three on a hill), but all models firing suffer -1BS
tooo
Samurai Longbow: 36'', +1 strength at short range
do you think that is fair, those will be some pretty mean longbows
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Nah, not two bonuses.. either give them higher strength or longer range.. both would be wicked ;)
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If you really want to make them good you could make them 36" range, armour piercing under half range.
It's slightly worse than the 6th ed Wood Elf rules (so not too overpowered), but is still pretty nasty. Almost the equivalent of Wood Elves I'd say.
Does this army have much of a plan?
Have you got ideas on what you want to be its strengths, weaknesses, etc. or are you just following history and hoping that all comes together?
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| QUOTE | | Nah, not two bonuses.. either give them higher strength or longer range.. both would be wicked ;) |
lol, wicked allright. wicked cool. mkay i'll try again
| QUOTE | Does this army have much of a plan?
Have you got ideas on what you want to be its strengths, weaknesses, etc. or are you just following history and hoping that all comes together? |
well you just made a really good point, what i did to start off was just i thought of units that "should" fit into a nippon type of army, then i just came up with special rules and statlines that portrayed the units that i thought should be there, now that i think of it there really isn't any type of strategy or direction to the army
that really just helped me alot
but now i can use all of your guys help...
what should i change to make certian things stand out? and what should the weaknesses be?
| QUOTE | | Once we've finished our lists, maybe we can combine the best parts of each Nippon list and make a Super Nippon Army? |
sounds like a good idea but then we have a lot of work to do
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