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 Dragon mounted character
Glim
Posted: Jun 23 2009, 09:35 PM
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To play one of my friends who commands hordes of Ogres, I decided about taking a Dragon character. So what to take?

HotH
Oaken Armour
ench shield
Spirit Sword
Dawnspear
Glamourweave
Fimulwinter Shard
an Annoyance
light armour
shield
Great weapon

I really need some protection because he will have leadbelchers and in CC I cannot kill all models in front of the Dragon (I think)

Already made some combinations and just can`t make my mind up. Can you help me?
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Glim
Posted: Jun 24 2009, 04:36 PM
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So just talking in myself then.

Humm, Dragon, Highborn, shield, light armour.

Maybe, Callach`s Claw, the Oaken armour and the Fimbulwinter Shard. Seems a good idea, better stay away from Maneaters.

Or the Oaken armour, great weapon and a Wraithstone.
Or the Oaken armour, great weapon, enchanted shield and the Hail of Doom arrow.
Or the Oaken armour, Sword of striking and Merciw`s Locus.

Feel that the Oaken armour is a must have, they are going to fight back.
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Posted: Jun 24 2009, 05:41 PM
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Ok, then take the oaken armour and a great weapon for sure, you could also give him the HOD arrow as there is sure to be at least 1 turn where he isn't in combat and it would help to soften up whatever he is planning on charging. In combat you have 10 S6 attacks which should be enough to win the combat for you.

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Posted: Jun 25 2009, 12:11 AM
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Ogres are known for poor Ld, and you cause Terror, so I'd be tempted to go with the Fimbulwinter Shard (that's the one that reduces enemy Ld, right?). I also think a Dragon is the perfect place for the Stone of the Crystal Mere.

I've never played with/ against ogres myself though.
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Posted: Jun 26 2009, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (Hillbilly Carl @ Jun 24 2009, 12:41 PM)
Ok, then take the oaken armour and a great weapon for sure, you could also give him the HOD arrow as there is sure to be at least 1 turn where he isn't in combat and it would help to soften up whatever he is planning on charging. In combat you have 10 S6 attacks which should be enough to win the combat for you.

Not exactly, even riding a dragon, the great weapon will only give you +1 strength.
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Posted: Jun 26 2009, 05:36 PM
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Oh ya right, sorry I forgot about that rule. Maybe the spear of twilight then, S5 killing blow is a fairly good compromise.
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Posted: Jun 29 2009, 07:46 PM
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So I was away this weekend to the Garpop Metal Meeting in Belgium this weekend. See I`ve got a lot of replies, thanks.

Dragon, Highborn, shield, light armour (from the Oaken armour).

1) the Oaken armour
Fimbulwintershard gives the enemy -1 to hit you and your mount.
Callach`s Claw -1 to enemy Ld when doing a wound (sword)

2) the Oaken armour, great weapon
the wraithstone -1 Ld in 6" range

3) the Oaken armour
Sword of striking +1 to hit
Merciw`s Locus no Strenght bonus for you or enemy

Noticed that the ench shield/oaken armour version was illegal due to them both being magic armour. Is the great weapon only going to give +1S? thought it was different because he is riding a Monster.
Ogres are not considerd Monsters right?

greets ~GLIM~
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Hillbilly Carl
Posted: Jun 29 2009, 10:19 PM
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The trouble with the fimbulwinter shard is that it makes forest spirits stupid. The problem is that with a flying dragon the best unit for combat support would be wild riders due to their speed, the fact that they cause fear on the charge and their ability to carry a banner (which can be a war banner). A unit of 5 with a warbanner running alongside your dragonrider is a very fast and dangerous combo.
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Posted: Jun 30 2009, 06:08 PM
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I was thinking about a list with two WR units, but as long as they stay 6" away from the dragon they will be fine. In CC Stupidity will not be tested for and.. if you do have to make the test, you have a General Highborn with Ld 10 nearby since he is obviously riding the dragon.

Not too bad if you ask me. But I do agree, it is a downside to the item.

euhh does anyone know if you can still take a kindred while riding a dragon? Seems kinda weird, but I don`t know where it says that you can not do that. the only thing you could take is the eternal kindred, so not very impressive.

Right now I`m leaning towards:

Dragon, Oaken armour, shield, great weapon, the Fimbulwinter shard, a Murder of Spites.


thanks ~GLIM~
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Hillbilly Carl
Posted: Jun 30 2009, 07:15 PM
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How many points is the fimbulwinter shard? I think it is good, but the stupidity is a dangerous thing. As for the spites, they don't seem all that effective. I'd rather see the killing blow spear or even an annoyance of netlings (in case you go up against something really big and scary). Even the hail of doom arrow would come in handy (you will have at least one round of shooting so you might as well make the most of the highborn's awesome BS).

Here is my suggestion: line up a few games, maybe on a weekend and come up with a few variations of equipment for your dragonrider. Play a game with each combo and decide what you like and what fits your playing style.

In a fast, hit and run game like you seem to be planning I'd definitely go for the HOD so that you can soften up the target a bit first. The oaken armour should be enough protection for you so I wouldn't worry too much about the fimbulwinter shard, spend the extra 15 points elsewhere in your army.
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Posted: Jul 1 2009, 01:09 AM
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I haven't had a chance to test it myself, but one idea I like is the wraithstone and some form of shooting weapon. With the dragon breath and highborn shooting you can do a fair bit of damage, as well as march blocking. Also, all terror tests and panic tests caused by the dragon will give a -1Ld penalty. Vs some armies (undead, daemons, etc.) this won't do much, but vs Brettonians or Empire it should be very good (against Orcs and Goblins it's just mean...)
Edit: seems I mentioned this already in this thread... sorry to double up.
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Glim
Posted: Jul 6 2009, 05:21 PM
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I`m going with:

Dragon, Oaken armour, shield, the Fimbulwinter shard, Sword of might

gives 5+ armour, 4+ regeneration, +1 Strenght and -1 to hit you and your mount.


I`m having the battle next saturday so we`ll see if it works than. Thanks for your input.
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