Title: A converted Army- HE
Elros Amandil - September 22, 2008 07:31 PM (GMT)
I think I know one guy who might be able to help me out here but...I'm thinking of getting a new army for WH Fantasy thing is I've narrowed it down to either empire or High Elves unless they redo Tomb Kings pretty soon in which case I might give them a whirl (I love Egyptian things) But my problem with Empire is that I don;t like many of the models and with High Elves I have a similar problem in that I don't like the look of the basic troops and also some of the armour on the special units.
So my plan is to make a long term plan to make a converted High Elf army. So basically I would be converting most of the models. The other way to do it would be to make my own army with conversions and write fluff for that army but using the rules for High Elves if you understand what I mean.
But before I go out and do that I was wondering if you guys had any simple ideas for conversions to make some of the older models that weren't redone in the new High Elves range look pretty awesome.
I've already thought about converting Brettonian or Glade Guard horses to make the High Elves steeds and the other thing was maybe using the armour from Haldir's Elves on some of the elite troops.
Geep - September 23, 2008 05:27 AM (GMT)
I wouldn't suggest using LotR models- they're significantly smaller and look pretty out of place.
Glade rider steeds for the high elf steeds is a good one. Wild rider steeds suit Dragon princes- the armoured helms have horns IIRC. You'd need to work out how to add armour though.
Personally, I think the HE models tend to be pretty good- I'm just not a fan of their usual paint schemes.
Silly Dragon Elf the Third - September 23, 2008 08:02 AM (GMT)
I like the basic troops (if you talk about LSG or spears, if you talk about Archers i completly understand). I love the armour of the Phoenix guard and swordmasters! Not too keen on the white lions myself.
You could what i was going to do for my wood elves. I am going to be re-painting my Asrai in Asur colours of white, silver and blue. They were to be based on a Avelorn themed army where there is treemen (yes forest spirits on Ulthuan! just look through the fluff pages for the treeman oakheart or something). They would use the rules for Wood Elves but they will be fluffy High Elves. As Avelorn is the place for the Everqueen and dense forest so when danger threatens they use guerila warfare as they are not really fighters and as handmaidens of Isha hate to lose life. You could take a High Elves army do some simple conversions with sprues from both armies using Glade Guard as archers etc and base it on Avelorn (Avelorn = Athel Loren) Ariel could be the Everqueen, Drycha could be a simple powerful Dryad general and not a vengeful creature. Seeing as the two armies are both Elves i can't see why anyone would complain (maybe in stupid tornaments).
I share your thoughts on the Empire models its one of two reasons why i chose not to collect them in the end. The other is that no matter what list i wanted i found myself being compelled to take handgunners and cannons etc. I found myself making gunline lists though i hate them! Oh and i have chosen an evil army...Deamons of Chaos! Already got some bloodletters, new foundation paints, new brushes and army book.
Elros Amandil - October 1, 2008 08:43 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the replies. Yeah I see what you mean now aboutthe models being slightly smaller. I am tied now though between the High Elves, (ordered a book from my local store) and the Deamons of Chaos. I love some of the Tzeentch creatures rules and the fact you can muster 14 power dice in a 2,000pt army. I've also seen where someone painted black guard in tzeentch colours and they look awesome. It's a toughy.
I think I will buy both books and probably the Warriors of Chaos book when that is released and just play test them with paper models try a few things and see which I prefer.
I think it's a shame that when you look at what they did to the dark elf models and then look at what they did for the high elves...they changed very little for the HE and DE look stupidly good. Admittedly the Asur do get a lovely new dragon model :D
Hillbilly Carl - October 1, 2008 11:14 PM (GMT)
I have seen some pretty cool conversions when it comes to High elf armies. The most common themes I have seen are based on a single location or city or type of troop. I've seen white lion themed armies with the lions from the chariots counting as elven steeds. Or phoenix knights using phoenix guard torsos on dragon prince horses using the rules for dragon prince knights. I think the high elf rules would be good ones for a samurai army (swordmasters come to mind) but that might require a bit too much converting!
Elros Amandil - October 2, 2008 12:33 PM (GMT)
yeah that is a good idea but I think you're right on the too much converting. I've been thinking about using the lions as mounts just not sure how I'd do the legs yet if I did (legs of the rider that is)
I was thinking of going down the personal army of the Phoenix King with the LoTR models because their armour is fancy, flashy and detailed. I love the Haldir's elves models. But as already stated it would be difficult to use those models because of their size.
hmmmm....to the drawing board!
Hillbilly Carl - October 2, 2008 01:40 PM (GMT)
Eternal guard armour is pretty flashy and the poses are fairly dynamic. You could use them as spearmen or phoenix guard with a bit of conversion. As for the lion mount, I think the legs of a regular mounted figure will fit. Or you could use a bretonnian knight's legs since they are split in half and just greenstuff in between any gap.
Elros Amandil - October 2, 2008 03:10 PM (GMT)
Bit expensive for spearmen I think and I don't think I'd want to many similoarities between my wood elves and (perhaps) future High Elves even though they are technically the same race. But thanks for the suggestions.
I'm guessing that the Lions aren't sold seperately...I need to check that out
Hillbilly Carl - October 2, 2008 03:13 PM (GMT)
No, I think you'd have to buy the chariot. You could model it as a horse chariot though and keep the lions for mounts so as to not waste anything.
Silly Dragon Elf the Third - October 2, 2008 09:11 PM (GMT)
Huh i just started a deamons of chaos army myself. I went with them as i thought they would be less expensive than other armies and they looked cool. But for my 1000pts army list it would come to about £120! Sure for 2000pts all i need is two more units and a deamon prince. But still sod playing a horde army like skaven you would have to be rich or mad!
Deamons of chaos pees me off as there are no models for the heralds (hero characters). No models for the seekers of a slaanesh (mounted deamonettes) or i haven't seen them in store or online. So even though i like to make my own converted characters it does take the piss that i HAVE to whereas armies like Wood Elves High Elves have lots of differrent characters (which is good but i just wish they did the same to others).
I walked down to my local store at 3pm. It was closed and inside i saw signs that read "paint £2.25 each" etc and my heart sank. I couldn't offered much before and now...i consider giving it up corporate b*****ds!
Elros Amandil - October 2, 2008 10:46 PM (GMT)
I'm lucky that my local store is freezing it's prices until november on everything they have right now (so old prices) and they also offer and continue to offer 10% off all games workshop products so I'm lucky there. Buying in my paints quick because £2.25 is a bit much...models have gone up because also so has the price of tin apparently which is used in the metal compound but that shudnt affect paint.