This will be the thread for our combat. I'll post a list once I've picked an army!

edit: Just realised these battles would be a fun way to re-enact different 'historical' Warhammer battles from the fiction! Not this game though. I don't think I want to embark on trying to re-enact a Dwarf attack on Athel Loren until I actually know how the army works, if I indeed choose Dwarfs.

edit: I've decided to go with a Chaos army, likely with a Beast general.

edit: Yep, Beasts. I don't think I'll do too well with the army, but it should be fun, and who better to cause trouble in Athel Loren? I'll have an army list ready by this evening.

If you do, bring the Anvil of DOOM!!!!! The Rune of Wrath and Ruin is by far the best game winning aspect of the dwarves if you take a bit of a shooting army. It hits 1-3 units and on top of the damage, the bonus is the hit units moving half their movement rate, so more time to shoot! I've already designed and am waiting for the models to come in, $200 later and I'll have 2 units of ironbreakers, the anvil of Thorek Ironbrow, 2 units of thunderers, 1 unit of rangers, bsb, 2 bolt throwers and Malakai with the Axe Hewer. It's an army I am sure could take on most anything, unfortunatly including my beloved forest spirit army.

Good luck Caern

I doubt the anvil will fit in this size battle... :happy:.

I shall make a 1000pts list too. Incidentaly I don't mind who sets up or anything, I just thought it would be quicker if one person did it. How about you pick the terrain peices, and I'll place them pretty fairly (you can specify if you want a certain piece in a certain area of the board or whatever. If you want anything moved when I've done it that's fine. It'll just speed it up.

Then we can do deployment etc as normal.

Servant of Isha.

Let's do a really themed battle of the classic invasion of Athel Loren by Beastmen. For terrain I'll let you decide on sizes and such but let's have two or three pieces of Woods and maybe a water feature, such as a shallow pond (difficult terrain) just to break things up a bit.

I finished an army list before I left for work but I didn't bring it with me to the office, so I will try and get it done over lunch. I have the book with me today.

Ok, shall do. *gets to work on some amazing map of artistic fashion..... i.e. green with dark blobs on*

Servant of Isha.

Finished my list. Here it is

*cries at enemy army*

Here's mine:

Rather character heavy but it should be fun to play with even if it won't do so well. (3 chariots! Not to mention 2 gigantic beast herds).

Servant of Isha.

I have never faced a 'pure' beasts army so I stuck to those because they are Core. I have no idea what to do with the various Specials (Minotaurs, Mortals, Daemons, Trolls, etc.) or Rares (Dragon Ogres, Spawn)

edit: If anyone out there reading this is good with fiction and is bored enough to write some kind of short bit of fluff naming my heroes and setting the stage for this invasion into Athel Loren, go for it! That would be so cool.

The Wargor looked up at the dark, brooding trees before him and then at his assembled herd. Multitudes of impatient Gors and Ungors stamped upon the cold ground, flickers of steam issuing from their flaring nostrils as three large chariots patrolled through the ranks, the constructions cutting thick gouge marks in the trampled earth. Behind him stood a group of Beastmen larger than the rest, their hides covered in thick fur, their weapons cruel looking.
The Wargor felt a slight feeling of contempt. His Warherd was the biggest to come down the mountains in many a year and he could already sense his victory. The power he would gain from this Forest was far greater than any fanciful tricks it may play upon him.
Raising his weapon high into the air the Wargor let out a massive roar, the sound of which echoed through the trees. His herd charged forward, savage gleams in their eyes as they began to hack their way through the foliage.
The Wargor was pleased.

Alanna cried out as she felt the shudders from the Forest as it came under attack. Flocks of Spites flew to the south, their normally welcoming forms transforming into creatures with sharp claws and biting teeth. Alanna could sense the presence of more Asrai as they made their way to confront these intruders. Dropping from the branch she was perched on Alanna sprinted off through the trees, determined to stem this attack before it fully began...


(I tried not to sound too Guardian's of the Forestish :p )

I've made the map no problem, but I can't work out how to post it as an image. It refuses to take the file in photobucket, and I've tried saving it as various file types. I've tried copying to paint, but it can only copy one layer (and copying the next layer means you can't see the first). How am I meant to do this? :uhhhh: I'm using paint.net by the way.

I have to go out, but I'll try again this evening.

Servant of Isha.

If all else fails, save a *seperate copy* of the image as a .jpg image. Saving it as a JPG will cause you to lose your layer data so that is why you want to save it as a seperate copy. Photobucket should definitely take that. If it doesn't, I have a small webspace of my own where I can host our images. You can email me at ryan.machan at gmail.com, though replace the word 'at' and the spaces with the @ symbol. As to why I didn't just spell it out properly myself, well, I just want to reduce the number of web-crawling programs that harvest that address.

That intro is completely freaking awesome, Elberneth, huge thanks.

No problem :happy:
Have a good game :wink:

Yes, thanks Elberneth! :biggrin:

I've saved it as a jpg, but every program (photobucket, paint, general opening out of my documents) says it can't determine the file type :<. I'll send you an e-mail with the files attached so you can try.

That reminds me Caern, do you have msn? It would make the battles go quicker if you do.

Servant of Isha.

I do at home, (I use the basic, ad-free Windows Messenger) but I can't keep it open at work (where I am right now). I *can* however use one of the following alternatives for fast chatting even at work:
-Google Talk
-IRC

I must say I've never heard of Google Talk or IRC, but it's not a problem if we don't use it anyway. PMs will work for within-phase info.

Oh, and I've sent the files to you.

Servant of Isha.

Emailed you back with an explanation of what is going wrong with that .jpg file.

reeaaaly want to give suggestions for the beastmen list but that would be unfair so Im just going to say cant wait to see the battle.

*sighs and goes to download Graphics Gale*
Hopefully that will work. Now I have to get used to a whole new program!

Servant of Isha.

Ok, here we go:


I hope that works *crosses fingers*

EDIT: Yay! Finally. Incidentaly the jpg file didn't work even for GG, but saving it as a .png file worked... odd. Now you can all see my... er ... *wonderful* skills at map making...

Servant of Isha.

Beautiful. So how shall we do our dice rolling? Do you want to use a dicebot in an IRC room that we can both see? Or just roll dice ourselves and use the ol' fashioned honour system?

edit: Personally I'm good with just the honour system, doesn't bother me one bit, but I am perfectly willing to use a 'third party' in the form of a dicebot or whatever too.

Rolling dice ourselves seems fine. I'm not that bothered about winning or losing, and don't see the point in cheating.

Based on my uttery appalling dice rolls last night at roll playing (I'm lucky my character didn't die multiple times I rolled that badly) you're bound to win! Unless Isha decides to balance it out for me :happy:.

And what a nice start... a 1 for choosing who deploys first!

Servant of Isha.

Kinda hard to lose to that.

I roll a... holy smokes. I roll a 1 also. We have to roll again.

edit: My second roll is a 6.

I've got a 3. You choose. However, I have to go now... we shall continue another day.

Servant of Isha.

I deploy my first unit, a beast herd. Red is Gors, the muddy pink are Ungors, and the uniquely coloured dots are the command models. White champion, pink musician, orange standard.



Your turn.

Ungors are on 20x20 bases by the way, not 25x25.


I've deployed my unit of Glade Guard, and have added deployment zone lines as it was annoying me trying to guess where it was. I'll take them off after deployment.

Servant of Isha.

To work with the existing battlemap, just save the image file that I upload on my turns and paste it into your existing file as a new layer underneath all your units, but on top of the base canvas layer on the bottom - that way your units will remain independant layers, but my units will always be easily updated in a single step on your end - you can work with what I've done rather than having to start over from scratch. As is, the setup you've got has modified the positioning of my models and has reduced the ungors to 20mm, but they are all 25mm.

Anyways, here's my second unit - a group of Bestigors.

The ungor modification was intentional, I was sure ungors were 20mm... *was confused*. Either way, I should have spent more time checking postitionings, I rushed it a bit. Sorry.

The problem with all that is, I need those trees to be moveable! It's no use to me having that as a base. Also, I would lose the moveability of the units I had placed previously, as they would be part of the new background layer.

I'll stick to my one, albiet modified, for now at least. The other option is to send files via e-mail, so we can add to the same file.

Edit: I'm now compying it over then deleting everything apart from your new unit, then adding it to my map. However, can you not use white from now on? My program keeps deleting it, making it see-through without me asking it to. I can't get white boxes to show up.

Servant of Isha.

Gotcha. The positioning of my models is very important to me though because, unless you want to come to a gentlemanly agreement for a house rule, skirmishers charging skirmishers can result in sometimes very long, or very short, battle lines, depending on the precise positioning of models, and that greatly affects Herds since I might get ranks or I might get no rank bonus at all. If you want though, I'll be happy to come to an agreement to specify that battle lines where skirmishers charge other skirmishers will always be 5 or 6 or 7 models wide.

Ungors are 25mm. Beasts do not have anything smaller.

Yeah, I just got confused about their bases when I did it.

I can understand, though to be honest I'd just allow you to rank them up how you wanted in any situation. I'm not much bothered. If there ever came to a point where we both particularly wanted a positioning I'd be very surprised but I'm sure we'd be able to get to an agreement.

I'll re-iterate what I added to my previous post now (as you may miss it);

I can copy units over with a bit of magic wanding, but could you not use white, as my program keeps thinking it's transparent instead and so it doesn't show up. This was I can keep your unit in your formation.

Servant of Isha.

OH! And we both forgot to roll for spells!

I'm rolling on the Lore of Beasts

I roll a 5. The hunter's spear. Hmm. I've never seen this spell used before. I don't think I'll take it. I'll take advantage of the option to drop it for the base spell instead, The Bear's Anger.

I also have an additional spell from the magical staff called The Wild Call. edit: I'll spell this out for you now so you know what it does. 9+ to cast. Cast on a Beast Herd, Bestigor, or Warhounds unit within 12" of the caster and within its normal charge range of an enemy. The unit may declare and make a normal charge move immediately, though the charged unit may only stand as a reaction.

edit: About the white - yep, can do.

Oh yes! For Liandrin, my branchwraith, I roll a 1 - Treesinging (which I probably would have swapped for anyway). For Alanna I roll 4 & 5 (grr, I wanted 2 or 6). I'll swap 5 for Treesinging, which leaves me with the Twilight Host (Ariel's Blessing would probably be more useful, but I haven't had a chance at using the Twilight Host yet, so I'll give it a go).


Unit of Dryads with Branch Nymph Deployed.

Edit: Thanks. Also, what colour would you rather your champion be? I put blue because it'd stand out, but your call.

Servant of Isha.

I changed my champions to blue to match on my files, so they'll just be blue.

Here's my other unit, another beast herd. These herds sure are a pain to create.

Wardancers Deployed. The Purple is the musician, the Yellow is the Champion.

I know! That's one bonus of small asrai units...

Servant of Isha.

Deployed the first Tuskgor chariot

Second unit of Dryads deployed.

Servant of Isha.

Here comes the second Tuskgor chariot!

Wild Rider unit deployed. Let me guess what's coming next? :happy:.

Servant of Isha.

The last Tuskgor is deployed

Characters deployed. The Branchwraith in the Dryads, the Spellsinger in the Glade Guard (though I'm sure you guessed).

I might as well roll for first turn now, as you've only got your characters to deploy: 1. add 1 for finishing deployment first, that's a 2 for first turn.

Edit: You can take out the deployment lines if you like, or I will next time.

How are we going to measure movement accurately? (specifically thinking of diagonal movement).

Servant of Isha.

The Wargor is the light blue, and the Bray Shaman is the purple. Each has joined a different beast herd.



I roll a 1 for first turn. You get to go first.

edit: As far as diagonal movement goes, can your paint program draw straight lines and then use a Rotate function? I'm using Painter, which can. So I will just paint a ruler, and then use the rotate funtion to turn it whatever way is required to calculate the angle.

Check to see if GraphicsGale can do the same.