In the back of the new rulebook there is a stat list for Chaos Dwarfs, does anyone know if or when they'll be released?

If you heard ANY rumour please post it.

Think the concept is interesting

there's a list on the gw website

Wikipedia:

Seems as if they'll get a new army

Woah, this is going to be interesting. Chaos Dwarf players have been waiting longer than Wood Elves for their models.

there are a few people on warseer (go there for all rumours) that say at the summer Games Day events Gav Thorpe said that Chaos Dwarves were "getting more focus than before" but the design team is having a hard time getting a concept for them, and the earliest release would be 2008
so, they're working on it, but their definitly not going to rush it

their ancient!

Cool, in just one word, Cool.

If I've completed my Woodies I think I'll buy some of those Chaos Dwarfs.


Only I can't seem to find the right article, is it on the US or on the UK site?

Here's the current chaos dwarf list:

Chaos Dwarves

It would be good; I think the models for them that were used for the hellcannon (or whatever it was called) looked really good, and it would be interesting to see them come back.

Servant of Isha.

It's cool that they will get a new book, I however love the old models and I hope they don't get rid of them.

their not getting a new book for a while, most likely be another two years.


btw, dont trust any of the stats in the back of the rulebook, they were put there so newer players could play the game right away without buying the armie books and worry about learnign army specific rules, and as such they have been altered.

So I've read the chaos Dwarves list and I must say I'm impressed. It Doesn't seem to me that the developing should have any problems coming up with a new list and some fluff.
Especially the Magic item list makes you go WOW

After reading the article Servant of Isha gave us it seems that the Chaos Dwarves are the exact opposite of Wood elves. Like the magic item that if you give one wound to a flammable opponent he is slayed instantly. Also they can only not use Lore of life and beasts.

I'll have to keep painting if I want to buy them in a few years.

I'm a Chaos Dwarf player, and I can say that they're a really fun army to play. We've been waiting a long time for an army list, but we haven't given up hopes. We've been getting mentions in other army books, as well as the 7th edition rulebook. I don't need to point out the hellcannon, and it's also rumoured that we're getting a new hero model for the summer's campaign.

And now, as a shameless plug in my first post, I'm going to advertise my Chaos Dwarf forum (link in signature).

Oh wow cool that their are mentions in the other rulebooks. Only thing I don't like are the Bull Centaurs, they seem a tad out of place, it would be cool if they're replaced by some Chaos Trolls.
That would complement the army I feel.

I can say that I whole-heartedly disagree with that. Bull centaurs are the favoured children of Hashut! Who needs some wussy chaos trolls when you can have m8 s6 a2 for 21 points?

Oke that is impressive. Maybe I got turned off by the old models I've seen.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Oh great not more over powered chaos armies... can't wait (sarcasm). I guess 3 W and WS5? with along with T9? Also a 3+ ward? Core? Sorry i don't like chaos much...not the players just the army.

I am interested in the army though i mean dwarfs are hard enough put the chaos in their too and ouch what an army! :blink:

Can't wait to play them myself. Do you think they will get offensive magic? Wizards and the such?

SDETT

They have sorcerers, but they're nothing to write home about - they don't have access to the special lores of the gods like normal chaos sorcerers do (if I remember correctly). Though if they get their own army book they may well end up with their own lore.

They are different from normal chaos in many ways, but I think differently about chaos; I wouldn't like to play as chaos, but I relish the chance to play against them. They may have some very hard units, but they lack quite a bit in the sorts of things that elves excel at. They don't have any form of scouts, very lacking in skirmishers or other such units, have no shooting to speak of... easy to surround and you can make the game go as you planned relatively easily.

A chaos player needs just as much tactical ability as any other, but of a completely different nature. He has to use his limited unit choices to stop the enemy surrounding him and laying traps for him.

The chaos dwarves are a complete mix... dwarves, orc & goblin slaves, centaurs... very different from most armies.

Servant of Isha.

Chaos Dwarfs are not chaos. Lets get that striaghtened out now. They're real name is Dawi'Zharr, which means dwarves of fire. They don't worship chaos gods, but rather their own god, Hashut. Chaos units cannot be used with chaos dwarfs at all. To have the CD's re-released would NOT just mean warmachines for chaos armies.

The army itself isn't cheesy, though people seem to think it is. It's a bit of a jack-of-all-trades army, it can do most things but isn't really spectacular at it. Yes, bull centaurs are nasty, but they also have a very poor armour save (4+) and get shot to pieces. Earthshakers are nice, wood elf players loathe it. :biggrin:

As for their future, the rumor is 2009. We're supposed to get a chaos dwarf character model for the campaign this summer, with a great weapon I beleive. Not sure what'll come of it, but I'm definately buying it.

I must say that I'm really impressed by the endurance of the chaos dwarf players. They just wait and wait for their book but never receives it. I really hope that character will show up this summer and that it looks great cause your really deserve it.

Ahahah, you're preaching to the wrong crowd with that one. Our best AS's are 5+ if you don't count 60 point Tree Kin.

But chances are, GW will change the Chaos Dwarf tactics with the rerelease. Though a shame, because I'm liking all these original CD conversions.

changing the tactics is probably correct, along with a lot of other things

one of the main reasons they have taken this long to make a new book for Chaos Dwarves is they couldn't just get a concept down for them,
their searching for an entirely new concept because in their current state they feel that the CD don't exactly 'fit' in the Warhammer universe,
so the developer's are trying to come up with an entirely new way that people will look at them and play with them instead of just looking at them and seeing dwarves in chosen chaos warrior armour and beards,
so when the CD's do come out (finally) we will see an entirely new race that will play it's own way with completely new rules

personally, i think it will be worth the wait

Haha, that's because (unlike all the other races), CD don't fit into a preassigned 'real world race' or high fantasy slot.

Their image actually is taken from ancient Assyria/Persia. Of course, Isengard themes are also present, as well as the obvious dwarf influence.

which is why i think it will be very interesting to see what they come up with when they finally come out
i don't think they will release it unless it's good

i mean look at Tau in 40k, that's entirely new for the most part (at least in my opinion, blue kangaroo things?)
and now Tau are one of the most popular races in the game following Imperial Guard, Space Marines, and Chaos Marines

the one thing that they say they are really trying to do is make them seem civilized for an evil race, as weird as that sounds

but think about it,
Orcs and Gobbo's : too busy fighting within themselves and warlike to really get any organization going, but if one day they all banded together it would leave the world in ruin
spooky....

Chaos: too corrupt and busy fighting with themselves that they don't invade the south as much as they could, but one day they will all band together and leave the word in ruin
spooky....

Now with Chaos Dwarves, even though Chaos is in the title
they are actually supposed to have a stable society, they aren't going to ruthlessly kill each other for pleasure, they are smart
they have enslaved plenty of orcs and goblins to do their bidding, they probably pay off plenty of Ogre Kindom tribes, and they don't worship the four chaos gods
what we're looking at is an evil race that is actually going to do things the smart way instead of the blood-hungry way
that's a thing that i think is entirely new...
and i really can't wait to see it on the battlefield

I guess I should have picked up on that from the worship of that Baal-like god. >_>

Interesting.

By the way, the Tau have heavy Japanese influences, with a massive focus on Brave New World style Caste systems, and control methods. They're a utopian dystopia.

Chaos dwarfs are like really evil capitalists. They don't really care about conquest, they pretty much only care about money. Almost all of their battles are for slave-gaining purposes. They mostly fight against orcs and goblins, as they're very common in the Darklands. Chaos and Ogre raiders are common, but they have trading relationships with some tribes. Most ogre leadbelcher cannons come from the chaos dwarfs, and the Ironskin tribe has a close trading relationship with Zharr-Naggrund. Apparently, as stated in the 7th ed rulebook, we trade hellcannons not only with chaos, but with ogres as well. I'm curious as to what'll happen with that.