Political Statement Garbage

As an Independent I see things more clearly than those attached to either side... But this isn't about other shows this is about SPN's constantly poking fun of the right, but yet nothing about the left. And it does make you wonder..

ETA- To take out my previous comment cause it had nothing to do with SPN... LOL
Also to change wording because attack was to strong of a word.

April

This post has been edited by Freyja on Sep 29 2011, 06:14 AM

I think that definition depends on where you grew up hearing it. I grew up in sort of rural SD, my home town didn't make Federal population numbers to be called urban until the early 1980's. So around here "off the reservation" means 'out in left field - you aren't where people expect you to be or your behaviour is different than expected'. My SIL grew up on the rez, Standing Rock if you want to be precise, and she says that term so your meaning is just one of several.


Gotcha Freyja!

Maybe they should just ignore the topical stuff all together, right or left.

It makes the show seem petty and preachy.

Not to mention kind of dumb, considering the "real world issues" that they tackkle are usually over simplified and characteratureized until it becomes an unrealistic cartoonish parody.

Or being unafraid to offend means they are edgy and bold. All in your interpretation.

As for the term "off the reservation", whether you find something offensive or not all comes from your perspective. I choose to not let things offend unless it is obviously meant as an offense. I don't think Dean meant it in an offensive manner when he said it, just like him saying Siamese Twins wasn't offensive in intent. Sam is more politically correct, which being an educated man he is more in tune with that. Dean is the common man and as such he speaks his mind with colorful phrases that he sees nothing wrong in. Hence, I don't either.

Living in AZ surrounded by reservations and knowing lots of Native Americans, I don't think most would find the term offensive. I dare say they would say it themselves and wouldn't blink if someone said it to them. It's not like anyone in this day and age believes that 'Indians only belong on the rez'. I think we've evolved a long way from that. And their sense of humor about past historical deeds is pretty good, all things considered. I went to see a comedy duo who specialize in their Native American sensibilities and I honestly was shocked at some of the comments that came out of their mouths, but the Native Americans in the audience were roaring with laughter...seeing the truth in what they were spoofing.

I hope Supernatural doesn't lose viewers because of offending them with their views and digs, but then if we do...they probably weren't the sort of viewer to accept the rest of Supernatural either. Our show isn't meek and mild or for those without a stout heart and strong immune system.

B.J.

I hear ya B.J,

I don't get offended by it but I sympathize with what the OP was trying to say... I would never stop watching SPN for that at all or at all anyhow, I don't let it ruin my enjoyment of the show. I just can understand what the OP might be feeling... I just think it should be a bit more balanced ya know.

And I wonder since when is being an Independent mean you can't sympathize or get bothered by the constant digs at one side over the other.. Oh well!

April

Never said you can't have a massive eye roll at the "children" calling names and whining- just that isn't it at least a relief that someone else is echoing your observation. "No, it's not just you we see it as well." and putting that into a mainstream media. Granted this show isn't going to have much (if any) effect on political opinion, but it's at least not docile.

As to Shadow's comment about them not being topical....I don't think the show would work inside a bubble. This isn't a "somewhere sometime" show, it's very much present day, and as such the characters are bound to have thoughts regarding current events.

So very true, and actually one of the parts of the show that I really love. It grounds it in a way to real life, instead of presenting the Winchesters as these mythical heroes out there "somewhere" fighting evil in some alternate reality. It makes their lives more immediate and real. Who hasn't considered the Winchesters and the coming Apocalypse when each new natural disaster hit the news?

And Freyja and anyone else who might find offense or be slightly bothered by it, I do sympathize with your feelings, I just think in this day and age there are shows that are much more heavy-handed or radical, like South Park. Supernatural always breezes off their digs and it is more for the humor factor, with a twinge of political commentary or contempt thrown in. It's a part of the show that I enjoy, not knowing what next that they will slip in. I guess I like edgy.

B.J.