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 Why Supernatural Has Slipped Lately, General
Tyrael
Posted: May 29 2012, 07:49 PM


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@dchardon26:

I know what you mean,and i totally get it.I mean it would have gotten repetitive with them just going for the monster of the week.But if you actually think about,apart from the first episodes leading up to the boys meeting with there father ,its always been about the big picture.

In the first seasons it was about killing the Demon that destroyed there family.I for one dont hate the whole angel arc,i just hate how it was implemented.

First of all Castiel was suppose to be this bad ass angel,yet he got his ass handed to him literraly by everybody.Then you had the second ruby,god how i hate her,such a poor actress.

I also hated the direction they went with her.I honestly would have liked to see a somewhat tragic ending.Would have loved if Sam and Ruby 1 went on to rule hell or something,and Dean trying to stop them and redeem his brother somehow.Also he first one seemed genuine in love/loyal to Sam.(with her own agenda of course to make him her "superstar",but she never seemed like she wanted to use him for anything else.)

Of course with the Angels trying to mess everything up.I also wish season 6 never happend,same as 7.

Seriously soulless Sam and fish faced monsters that are apparently allergic to some chemicals that humans only found on about in the last 50 years or so..
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lala2
Posted: May 29 2012, 10:12 PM


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QUOTE (Tyrael @ May 29 2012, 07:49 PM)
I honestly would have liked to see a somewhat tragic ending.Would have loved if Sam and Ruby 1 went on to rule hell or something,and Dean trying to stop them and redeem his brother somehow.

Are you my sister? LOL laugh.gif

My sister literally said the same thing to me yesterday! She said Season 4 should have been about Sam becoming the Ruler of Hell w/Ruby at his side, and Dean getting Sam back from that, which would have played into John's message of saving or killing Sam. I had never thought of that scenario until my sister said it to me yesterday. We were complaining about the current status of the show. It's funny that you would have also been in support of that playing out. I would have been fine w/that myself. I do think Kripke was afraid to let Sam go "totally" evil, and some viewers may not have been able to move past it but it would have worked for me!

I also agree that every season (prior to 6 & 7) has had a larger, overarching personal arc/storyline in btwn the MOTW episodes. That's the reason, I feel, many disliked these past two seasons. To me, those personal arcs gave the show meaning and heart. I enjoyed Season 6, for the most part, myself but feel the first half was stronger than the second half. That's largely b/c the first half was personal to the boys. What was wrong w/Sam? Where was Sam's soul? How could it be retrieved? Because of the personal nature of the "larger" problem, to me, it was as compelling as the search for John or the YED. The Mother of All in the 2nd half was weak. MOA wasn't targeting the Winchesters. She was just . . .whatever she was. Sam's memories were behind a wall so nothing was happening there on a personal level, and Dean's neverending drama w/Lisa and Ben just wasn't very interesting. I wasn't invested in his relationship w/them to begin with and honestly couldn't have cared less if he stayed w/them or left them.

This season, the Leviathan became boring shortly after they were introduced. I found them interesting in 7.01, 7.02, and 7.03, but that was it. They went from interesting creatures w/an interest in destroying the Winchesters to boring creatures who just wanted to eat people. Ummm . . . who cares? At one point, they seemed really interested in getting the Winchesters but I guess that was just b/c Castiel thought they were good hunters or something?!?!? Who knows! I pray they will NOT return! Nothing about them was interesting.

To me, this show works best when the problems the Winchesters are facing are personal in nature and have something to do w/them. Finding Dad. Sam's Powers. Finding YED. Saving Dean. Dean's self-esteem issues. Saving Sam from himself. Dean's issues from Hell. Getting Sam's soul back. We got none of that this year. Sam's hallucinations and problems were disregarded and not shown. until the very last minute, removing any urgency from the story. Dean's depression was shown, but the story wasn't well-told or executed. To this day, I have no idea what brought on Dean's sudden, inexplicable depression this year!

I think the show needs to go back to being about the brothers. Someone needs to think of an overarching story for the year and how they want to execute it. If that's Dean/Cas in Purgatory for half the season, fine. Just think of a story for Sam and put it all together. I don't want to not see Sam while Dean's in Purgatory. I'd rather both brothers be together, but that's just me! I just want to feel like some thought was put into the story and the show.

Thanks for the "Dead or Alive" clip! Great scene but also sad b/c it reflects how far the show has fallen FOR ME. I know others are still enjoying each episode, but I haven't this season. For me, this was the WORST season of Supernatural ever.

Oh, and the LOST finale was sucked a lot! That was a huge waste of time! I would never encourage anyone to watch that show. I stuck w/it to the end hoping some explanations/answers would be give . . . . . boy, did they fool me!
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dchardon26
Posted: Dec 19 2012, 02:59 PM


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Interview with Kripke about the show now that he's been off it for a while. He said that one of his biggest regrets was making a storyline that ended the show afer five seasons and trying to find a way to prolong it. check it out....
http://www.tvovermind.com/supernatural/sup...tOy2IvKvfOl6.99
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NieceYou'reDead
Posted: Feb 17 2013, 04:53 AM


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I've watched this show since the pilot first aired, and I agree that it has changed a lot.

I didn't necessarily think the angels storyline was the best but we were getting so far into lore is was bound to happen anyways.

And I think if the show had just focused on Dean and Sam driving around and killing random monsters the characters wouldn't have grown like they have.

Granted I miss Bobby :[ And I wish Jo and Ellen didn't have to die.
Oh and Dean's a bigger hardass than he ever was but I like this season and we got picked up for another so I'm not complaining =0

And hopefully we'll have a lot more seasons to enjoy. =]

At least dean still likes pie, ;]

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