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 Sam's Nightmare
Samfan3
Posted: Sep 24 2011, 10:06 PM


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If it was one where the chains came out of the ceiling and pull him up.
Sam shouted Cas didn't he? That's what I make of it anyway and I wonder why hide.gif
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Kyle
Posted: Sep 24 2011, 10:58 PM


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What I noticed is the book that he kicked to the floor as his feet flailed around is on the floor after he woke up. So did he knock it down during his 'nightmare' after he woke up or did it actually happen?
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Maneth
Posted: Sep 25 2011, 12:01 AM


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well sometimes when we dream, we move around as if our body is going through the dream, such as kicking, so maybe he did knock down the book during the dream.
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sammycat
Posted: Sep 25 2011, 01:54 PM


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If it was one where the chains came out of the ceiling and pull him up.
Sam shouted Cas didn't he? That's what I make of it anyway and I wonder why 



Did Sam shout Cas during the dream? I don't think I noticed that. Interesting.


I know he shouted for Dean (and Bobby) when he woke up from it, and then went looking for them.



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Posted: Sep 25 2011, 02:49 PM


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QUOTE (sammycat @ Sep 25 2011, 03:54 PM)
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If it was one where the chains came out of the ceiling and pull him up.
Sam shouted Cas didn't he? That's what I make of it anyway and I wonder why 

Did Sam shout Cas during the dream? I don't think I noticed that. Interesting.

I know he shouted for Dean (and Bobby) when he woke up from it, and then went looking for them.

He shouted something for sure.
And I think it sounds like Cas.

Ok I just watched it again.
Chain comes down, Sam goes up. He gasps for air, shouts something and when his cheek almost touches the ceiling he shouts Cas. Just before you hear someone laughing.
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Posted: Sep 25 2011, 02:58 PM


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Aw, man. Laughing. That must be part of Sam's Hell. There is laughing buried in the mix when we see Sam burning in hell also (at the end of Unforgiven and I think when he was walking and had that burning vision again in the finale).


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Posted: Sep 25 2011, 03:11 PM


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QUOTE (sammycat @ Sep 25 2011, 04:58 PM)
Aw, man.  Laughing.  That must be part of Sam's Hell.  There is laughing buried in the mix when we see Sam burning in hell also (at the end of Unforgiven and I think when he was walking and had that burning vision again in the finale).

I agree with you on that.
I just wonder why Sam shouted Cas.
He was in the cage, it would be logical to shout the name of the person who causes the pain begging them to stop hide.gif
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QUOTE (Samfan3 @ Sep 25 2011, 03:11 PM)
QUOTE (sammycat @ Sep 25 2011, 04:58 PM)
Aw, man.  Laughing.  That must be part of Sam's Hell.  There is laughing buried in the mix when we see Sam burning in hell also (at the end of Unforgiven and I think when he was walking and had that burning vision again in the finale).

I agree with you on that.
I just wonder why Sam shouted Cas.
He was in the cage, it would be logical to shout the name of the person who causes the pain begging them to stop hide.gif

maybe sam subconsciously knew cas pulled him out but didn't succeed in getting all of him. that could explain why he shouted for cas....to save him.
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I didn't notice that! I will have to watch it again and check out that scene again!

I always thought that the worst torture they could do to Sam is for them to appear as people Sam knows and loves (i.e., Bobby, Dean, John, Mary, or Cas) when torturing him. That would be horrible!

My friend and I were saying that this clearly happened to Sam while in the cage, so I hate to think it was the image of Cas doing it! Poor Sammy!
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Posted: Sep 25 2011, 07:36 PM


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QUOTE (lala2 @ Sep 25 2011, 08:23 PM)
My friend and I were saying that this clearly happened to Sam while in the cage, so I hate to think it was the image of Cas doing it! Poor Sammy!

What you're saying makes sense too because Sam almost had a go at Bobby with that tool he was holding sad.gif
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Posted: Sep 25 2011, 08:00 PM


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I just found this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gysloGctp3U

I watched it a few times, I think Sam says: No! Cas! tissue.gif
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Wow. You are right! What does that mean?




Sam also says there is no escape or that he can't escape this in that first hallucination.



And you can really hear the laughter in the back ground.



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QUOTE (sammycat @ Sep 26 2011, 06:56 PM)
Wow. You are right! What does that mean?




Sam also says there is no escape or that he can't escape this in that first hallucination.



And you can really hear the laughter in the back ground.

You mean the hallucination in the basement right? When he turns around and everythings red?
I think he says this can't be it but really fast hide.gif
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Posted: Sep 26 2011, 07:10 PM


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You mean the hallucination in the basement right? When he turns around and everythings red?
I think he says this can't be it but really fast


I think you're right. In the first one, he was trying to convince himself it wasn't real. As to calling for Cas, I still think he was remembering when Cas told him he could have thrown him back into Hell.

So maybe he thought Cas had changed his mind and sent him back? shrug.gif
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Kyle
Posted: Sep 27 2011, 07:21 AM


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In the basement hallucination I heard "This can't be happening."
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