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Title: ACTA/ SOPA/PIPA Petitions
Description: Please Read- The battle is not over


Jamieo_0 - November 20, 2011 08:48 PM (GMT)
Dear SN.TV Members,

Those living in the US, may or may not have heard of the recent Stop Online Pirating Act (or SOPA) bill presented to congress last month.

While well intentioned, this Bill leaves many areas of "copyright infringement" open to interpretation, and could ultimately funnel the responsibility "C.I." definition to one sole entity. Essentially one corporation controlling internet content.

So far AOL Tumbler, Mozilla and BoingBoing have made efforts to rally protests against this bill.

It's potential to affect this site, along with others such as; Youtube, Tumblr, Livejournal, fan fiction sites, Deviant Art, Photobucket, Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Hulu, iTunes etc. is almost certain. And while it can be argued that C.I. infringement and Piracy are wrong, this bill goes beyond that to revoke our freedom of internet exposure, content and information.

It is with this encroachment of our freedoms in mind that the SN.tv staff would like to encourage all our US residents to write, call, sign petitions and speak out against this bill in any (peaceful) way they can!

Regards,

The SN.tv Staff

Raven524 - January 6, 2012 05:26 PM (GMT)
Latest on the SOPA Act--its still a danger to all on-line communities.

SOPA News - Internet Blackout

Google, Yahoo, Amazon and some other major internet companies are planning a black out day in January (there is talk about the 23rd) to protest this bill.

If you haven't already, sign up petitions and contact your senators and congressmen--in fact, I think if the internet does do down on that day--spend the time you would have spent on-line, calling and crashing your representatives phone lines in Washington DC ;)


charmed1of2 - January 6, 2012 10:26 PM (GMT)
Okay gang,

here is a link that so far shows what looks like may be turned off on the 23rd of Jan.

Once again, we aren't absolutely sure they are going to do this, but just incase you might want to check out the list of companies.Oh No They Didn't.

They are going to update the list, but so far we have:

Amazon
AOL
eBay
Etsy
Facebook
Foursquare
Google
IAC
LinkedIn
Mozilla
OpenDNS
PayPal
Twitter
Wikipedia
Yahoo!
Zynga

Steffs - January 7, 2012 10:48 PM (GMT)


Here to offer my support because it will affect us in the UK too.

Jamieo_0 - January 10, 2012 07:13 PM (GMT)
Those on twitter can message Senate members, and even get the SOPA issue trending by using this link

Freyja - January 16, 2012 08:50 PM (GMT)
Udated News,

Wikipedia is going to join in on the blackout...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57359763-...g=2547-1_3-0-20

Not confirmed are Facebook and Google from what I've been reading.

Also news that it's been SOPA has been shelved not confirmed on that either.

April

MsImpala67 - January 18, 2012 01:17 AM (GMT)
Seriously, dude, wth! NOT liking this bill at all, so I signed a petition and changed my Twitter picture to include a banner that says "STOP SOPA".

Raven524 - January 18, 2012 01:32 AM (GMT)
Well it looks like at least the White House is listening, but with the Motion Picture Association and the Music Association still pushing for some kind of bill, we still need to keep a wary eye (I know, I'm a little jaded when it comes to trusting our politicians).

White House Shuts Down SOPA

I still think the best answer is for the technology sector and the entertainment sector to work together to find a solution that benefits everyone :shrug

Freyja - January 18, 2012 05:46 AM (GMT)
You and me both Raven, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them and well you know me I can't throw very far LOL

Politician's say one thing do the opposite, so color me shocked if this thing actually dies....

Is SNTV shutting down tomorrow in protest of SOPA?

April

digital_bean - January 18, 2012 06:35 AM (GMT)
Wikipedia's blackout has begun. If you navigate to a page in English Wikipedia, it will appear for a few seconds before you are redirected to a black page which has links to some information about SOPA.

Reddit is about is about six hours from doing so. As large as Wikipedia is, I don't think its blackout will be shocking enough to the general public - not in the way a Facebook, Google or Twitter blackout would be.

It certainly doesn't help that that the CEO of twitter has openly criticised Wikipedia's blackout. However he reaffirms that Twitter is against SOPA and PIPA. More details here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/tec...ta5P_story.html

ETA: Wikipedia has taken an interesting approach to its blackout. There are numerous and trivial ways to stop the redirection of the black page which some sites are already describing.

On the plus side, some news programs here in Australia seem to have taken notice. I watched two news reports about Wikipedia's protest and those interviewed conveyed that they believe SOPA and PIPA are 'draconian' and 'detrimental'. Hopefully the same is occurring in the US where it matters most.

Raven524 - January 18, 2012 02:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Freyja @ Jan 17 2012, 11:46 PM)
You and me both Raven, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them and well you know me I can't throw very far LOL

Politician's say one thing do the opposite, so color me shocked if this thing actually dies....

Is SNTV shutting down tomorrow in protest of SOPA?

April

No April, it is not (as you can see, we are here :) ) :lol:

I think Twitter is responding this way because they believe the legislation is dead. However I applaud Wikipedia for taking a stand and following through with it. It might not have as big a splash as Google or Twitter, but it does get noticed.

I haven't seen anything on the news here yet, sadly. I don't expect we will as the very entities that want the legislation to go through, control the media here <_<

But we'll see as the day progresses. :)

Freyja - January 18, 2012 04:28 PM (GMT)
Google did join in :cheer :cheer

They are still up and running but did provide a little black outbar

https://www.google.com/

Live Journal also joined in as well adding in a place for discussion.

http://www.livejournal.com/

I just wished Facebook joined in and Twitter as well, but Google and Live journal doing their own quiet protest is awesome and sends a sounding message to Congress.

April

Steffs - January 18, 2012 06:16 PM (GMT)

There was a news item on the BBC radio 4 news programme this afternoon about it.

The woman 'expert' was saying its not so much the wording of the act but the way it will be interpreted. That people are worried that if they have a blog or a website and someone puts a link up to pirated stuff that they will be closed down. eg a site like ours would come under that umbrella. How far would we be liable.

There is also a worry that there seems to be no way that 'little people' can appeal and get their website etc up and running again quickly if proved innocent. Where is the line drawn.

cloex_brosluvr - January 18, 2012 07:44 PM (GMT)
So if somone complained that one of the sites InvisionFree hosted had done something wrong, they could be shut down just like that, no questions asked right? Which would lead to this place being shut down, correct?

Raven524 - January 18, 2012 11:55 PM (GMT)
Yes, if SOPA or PIPA passes, this sight could have to close down or at a minimum, you would not be allowed to post or link to any outside materials because if the 'media' in charge of that picture, news article, video feed complains, there could be a fine for copyright infringement and the site could be closed down. This would be true of any 'fan' type site, including those who do fan fiction and fan videos.

Here is a video that someone sent to me that really explains in terms most people can understand, not just what the impact would be for US citizens, but also for international citizens as well.

Ted - SOPA

In the end it comes down to this, the media industry is trying to turn the legal system on its head and ask that it is assumed the average user is guilty of pirating without them having to go through and prove it.

The sad part is, it won't really stop the pirating, because those who know how to do it, know how to get around the DNS censors. It will be casual users who will be impacted the most.

For those in the US, notice how much media coverage this is getting? Now ask yourself, when you watch the news, who really censors what you see--interesting huh?

Steffs - January 19, 2012 05:41 AM (GMT)
That was a really great explanation. What a good speaker he is. Thank you for that Robin it really made things clearer. Yes it could mean they destroy the Internet because almost anything could be deemed as a copyright violation. Even mentioning the name of a show could be used against you if one of those media Companies wanted you closed. Ted was right guilty until proved innocent is a violation of our rights.

Jamieo_0 - January 19, 2012 01:40 PM (GMT)
If anyone: participated in yesterday's Internet "blackout", called/ e-mailed their local representative or signed a petition in protest of SOPA/PIPA THANK YOU!!! :clap

Google alone collected 4.5 MILLION signatures opposing the bill yesterday.

Last week there were 5 Senators speaking out against this bill, this week there are 35. 41 votes against the bill are needed to keep it from passing, and thanks to everyone's efforts This goal is absolutely attainable.
Next week the Senate meets again, it will be very important to continue calling and e-mailing to make our Government aware that we do not want this bill passed.

Again, well done everyone!

digital_bean - January 19, 2012 09:45 PM (GMT)
Sorry if this is off-topic but I found this to be interesting and somewhat related:

Apparently Megaupload was taken down by the FBI not too long ago, charged with copyright infringement. For those not familiar, Megaupload is a file sharing service which allows users to upload large files which can then be downloaded by others. Another example of this kind of service would be RapidShare.

Megaupload and other file services have definitely been used by people to infringe copyright by uploading movies, tv shows, etc. however Megaupload says they fulfilled their responsibilities. The timing is very interesting, so close to the SOPA/PIPA protests but the FBI says it's just a coincidence.

Still waiting for more information.

Articles on this:

http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/meg...-feds-20120119/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/19/megauploa...cy-allegations/

Raven524 - January 19, 2012 11:48 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the links DB. At least this company will get it's day in court unlike those who would suffer similar issues under SOPA. It will be interesting to see if they really are guilty and if so, why the FBI didn't go after those who actually 'did' the illegal pirating instead of just the company that allowed it.

Of course, the sad thing is, it has now made it harder for business who rely on file sharing for legitimate reasons, a harder time. So this will be interesting to watch as it develops and to see the outcome. :unsure:

Freyja - January 20, 2012 01:20 AM (GMT)
Looks like in retaliation

Anonymous Takes Down DOJ/FBI and others.

QUOTE
In retaliation of the Megaupload shutdown, Anonymous has shut down the Universal Music & Recording Industry Association of America sites.

Raven524 - January 20, 2012 02:13 AM (GMT)
Huh, while I kind of applaud the ingenuity, unfortunately I'm not sure it will accomplish more than giving those who back the bill, more ammunition.

:shrug

It sounds like things will get interesting real fast though :)

Thanks for the links April.

Freyja - January 20, 2012 02:49 AM (GMT)
And the news keeps pouring in for SOPA, looks like yesterday made a big impact afterall.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/19/sopa-opponents-supporters/

:cheer :cheer :cheer :cheer

Let's Kill this BILL!

April

Freyja - January 20, 2012 07:21 PM (GMT)
BREAKING NEWS:

http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dea...ith-pulls-bill/

SOPA IS DEAD!

But PIPA is still alive we must kill this bill as well, no internet regulation..

Great job everyone! :cheer :cheer :cheer

April

Steffs - January 20, 2012 07:58 PM (GMT)


Thats great news

They would be better trying to find a way that would let people access this material legally for a minimum cost but on a global level not just a region level.

Jamieo_0 - January 20, 2012 08:14 PM (GMT)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand THAT right there is the sound of PIPA hittin the fan as well! :D

Raven524 - January 20, 2012 08:34 PM (GMT)
Looks like the MPAA got the message:

Dodd throws in towel

While it may not stop other attempts to get similar legislation, at least for now both bills appear to be DOA. :cheer :cheer

Great job to all who participated! :hi5

Irishgirl - January 20, 2012 10:13 PM (GMT)
:woohoo Best news I've heard all day all day!

Jamieo_0 - January 21, 2012 02:04 PM (GMT)
Everybody should check this video out.

And this, if you haven't read it yet, is just. WOW.

digital_bean - January 21, 2012 04:13 PM (GMT)
I'm not really sure why he bothered with the public threats, it seems like something he could do in private. It'll be interesting to see if his camp tries to do any damage control or PR in the next few days.

QUOTE
Those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake

And the internet community is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their freedoms are at stake.

Freyja - January 22, 2012 06:12 PM (GMT)
Yeah Chris Dodd seems to think he rules the world ;) Needs to be investigated big time on that one. His Bank bill was the reason BOA and other banks were gonna start charging you $5.00 to use your ATM card.

But if you thought SOPA was bad take a look at it's sister bill ACTA

http://youranonnews.tumblr.com/post/162576...cta-acta-is-the

It's worse than SOPA, let's kill all internet regulated bills and keep the internet free.

April

digital_bean - January 24, 2012 04:39 AM (GMT)
Wow, it just never ends. Although from what I've read ACTA is already in the works and has been for quite a while; the countries involved are just negotiating.

Ivy - January 26, 2012 08:14 PM (GMT)

Raven524 - January 27, 2012 03:37 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the link Ivy--I've signed up! :)

MsImpala67 - January 27, 2012 05:20 AM (GMT)
Signed it. :)

Ivy - January 27, 2012 07:34 PM (GMT)
Wow, the goal was to get 500.000 signatures, right now about 622.000 signed the petition. :cheer That's amazing.

Raven524 - January 27, 2012 08:47 PM (GMT)
It would be great to hit a million or more--maybe they'd get the hint ;)

Irishgirl - January 28, 2012 04:10 PM (GMT)
Signed it.

Ivy - January 28, 2012 06:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Raven524 @ Jan 27 2012, 10:47 PM)
It would be great to hit a million or more--maybe they'd get the hint ;)

About 806000 signed now ;)

charmed1of2 - January 28, 2012 07:51 PM (GMT)
signed :)

Ivy - January 30, 2012 08:07 PM (GMT)
*A-love-tap-to-keep-this-thread-up*

1.121.000, guys!




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