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 Broder is NOT licensed to practice in NY State, (call for investigation and complaints)
Bobson
Posted: Nov 4 2005, 11:35 PM


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The AEI website has been updated within the last hour as Broder tries to undo some of the damge that Al inflicted with his detailed outline of some of Broder's lies.

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Dr. Michael Broder is licensed by the state of Pennsylvania to practice psychology. In his role as Executive Director of the Albert Ellis Institute he has not counseled any clients, as his job is to manage and teach.


Does anyone who has worked with Broder in NY know if there is any evidence to the contrary?

Bob
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Gayle
Posted: Nov 5 2005, 12:22 AM


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Can someone post Dr. Broder's response here so it can be read?

(this is what Dr. Broder posted on his website concerning his license)

"Dr. Michael Broder is licensed by the state of Pennsylvania to practice psychology. In his role as Executive Director of the Albert Ellis Institute, he has not seen any clients. His job is to manage and teach."


What about asking if he's doing the job he's being paid to do -- managing the place.

For example, I received word from an AEI fellow who disagreed with speculation the leaky roof meant the board meant to sell the building.

The AEI fellow thought it might be a simple case of negligence.

A leak can cause structural damage and it also creates uncomfortable living conditions for Dr. Ellis. I would hate to see AEI called the tenement on 65th Street.

Mike, if you read this, please get the roof repaired, will ya'? It's an embarrassment.

Regards,
Gayle

This post has been edited by REBT-CBT Mod on Nov 5 2005, 03:14 PM
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Guest
Posted: Nov 5 2005, 12:32 AM


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(As this this such an important topic, this thread has been renamed to focus on the licensing issue of Dr. Broder, and some posts have been edited to keep the focus on the topic of the thread. Again, as this is an important issue, its critical to keep the focus clear and on topic).

Thanks,
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This post has been edited by REBT-CBT Mod on Nov 5 2005, 02:31 PM
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Guest
Posted: Nov 5 2005, 02:54 AM


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Here are the latest lies from Broder posted on the AEI website.

"Recently, Dr. Ellis sent out a highly inaccurate response to our information about this ongoing crisis. We have already answered practically everything with which he took issue below. Regrettably, we had no choice but to take the actions we took.
Dr. Michael Broder is licensed by the state of Pennsylvania to practice psychology. In his role as Executive Director of the Albert Ellis Institute, he has not seen any clients. His job is to manage and teach."


Again, Broder has published yet MORE SPIN and lies on the AEI website. It will never end. He will keep lying until the very end. He repeats the lie, AGAIN, that he had NO CHOICE. That is a blatant lie. There are DOZENS of other ways to go about fixing those problems.
Has anyone ever seen one man lie to the extent that Broder is lying about this situation? Broder makes Bill Clinton look like Mother Theresa. Lies upon lies upon lies. Its truly sick.


The reason Broder is making these new statements below that he has "not seen any clients" is to TRY save himself from very SERIOUS trouble. He is just trying to manipulate the agenda, as usual.
Notice the typical weasel words he is using.

Now all that needs to happen is for people to launch official complaints with the New York licensing board, to do a thorough investigation into Dr. Broder's dealings in New York at the AEI.
Those of you who are registered psychologists, or those who have been patients at the AEI, need to act now, and begin to make complaints to the licensing board.
They got Al Capone on tax evasion, so perhaps Broder can be gotten rid of for breaking the licensing rules for his profession.
He is also obviously breaking the code of ethics for psychologists, so again, its up to psychologists in the NYC area who know all the rules to lodge complaints against him.
Everyone needs to forward information that Broder is NOT LICENSED IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK TO PRACTICE PSYCHOLOGY. And get them to file complaints and lodge an investigation into this.
Its obvious Broder is trying to cover this up, who knows, maybe they are shredding documents at this very moment.

If there are any CLIENTS who saw Dr. Broder for any type of counselling, then they can file a complaint, and this will bring Broder down.

Those of you who know the local rules in New York, please post more info here about how people can LODGE COMPLAINTS and call for an investigation into Michael Broder in New York.
Forward emails to everyone about the fact Broder is NOT REGISTED in NY, and then have people figure out how to lauch complaints against him.
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Guest
Posted: Nov 5 2005, 01:55 PM


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“Michael Broder is not licensed to practice in the State of New York. This may be a source of action against him. Within the Institute Broder has complained that Debbie Joffe is not licensed, because she came from outside the US. Here Broder is directing a mental health facility in the State of New York, supervising psychologists, etc., and never bothered to seek a license. He is licensed in Pennsylvania, but in the US there is no reciprocity among States for psychology licensure.

“You can verify this by going to this link Office of the Professions, NY.
http://www.op.nysed.gov/opsearches.htm
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Guest
Posted: Nov 5 2005, 01:57 PM


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BRODER’S LICENSE:

Here is Broder's admission he is not licensed in New York State:

“…Dr. Michael Broder is licensed by the state of Pennsylvania to practice psychology. In his role as Executive Director of the Albert Ellis Institute, he has not seen any clients. His job is to manage and teach”.

“That’s a funny addition at the end: “and teach”! As far as I am aware, Broder was hired as a part-time, temporary, acting-Executive Director. He was paid a high hourly rate because he was part-time, and had a long way to commute. There are already ten staff members in the building who are paid to teach at a more reasonable hourly rate; who are locally available; and who are perfectly capable of doing any teaching that needs to be done.

“Has Broder been boosting his highly inflated salary claim (of between $400,000 and $500,000 [to a charitable body!]) by stuffing “teaching” into his role? Or is he, as is normal with him, trying to set up a deception by which to escape an investigation under the licensing laws? If he supervised any therapists, or trainee therapists, at the Institute, or anywhere else in New York State, then he is in breach of the licensing laws. But if he can re-classify that as “teaching”, perhaps he hopes to successfully deceive the licensing authorities?
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Guest
Posted: Nov 5 2005, 03:03 PM


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By the way, its critical to find out whether or not Broder has worked with ANY clients at the AEI. If he has, then his goose is cooked, and he knows it.

So if there are any clients who support Ellis, they could make a complaint, and then Broder would be out.

But even more important, as has been mentioned here already, we need experts and psychologists who know the licensing rules in New York, who can get an investigation in motion, to find out where Broder has broken specific rules, and get a complete investigation into his behavior.
There are grounds for ethical violations, and all sorts of things.

Its common knowledge that Broder has been working with clients, even in group sessions, and the like.

Notice how Broder uses the words "not seen any clients".
What does that mean? Its deliberately vague, as if he is trying to covering something up.

What we need are insiders and psychologists to cause an offical investigation to be launched by the governing body in New York.
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Guest
Posted: Nov 6 2005, 12:16 AM


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Here is the link to the psychology licensing law in NYS. http://www.op.nysed.gov/article153.htm

Here is a link about how to make a complaint.

http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd.htm

NOTE:
Cases of illegal (unlicensed) practice may be handled administratively, or they may be referred after investigation to the State Attorney General for criminal prosecution.

Professional Misconduct and Discipline

Complaint Hot Line:
1-800-442-8106
or conduct@mail.nysed.gov

Professional misconduct is defined in Education Law and in the Rules of the Board of Regents. Professional misconduct includes the following:

- Engaging in acts of gross incompetence or gross negligence on a single occasion, or negligence or incompetence on more than one occasion
- Permitting or aiding an unlicensed person to perform activities requiring a license
- Refusing a client or patient service because of race, creed, color, or national origin
- Practicing beyond the scope of the profession
- Releasing confidential information without authorization
- Being convicted of a crime
- Failing to return or provide copies of records on request
- Being sexually or physically abusive
- Abandoning or neglecting a patient in need of immediate care
- Performing unnecessary work or unauthorized services
- Practicing under the influence of alcohol or other drugs



Filing a Complaint
Q: How do I file a complaint?

A: You will need to complete a complaint form (PDF). http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd-complaint.pdf
Send your completed complaint form directly to the regional office nearest you http://www.op.nysed.gov/opdoffs.htm
or fax it to our main professional discipline office at 212-951-6537.

If you would like to speak with someone first about professional misconduct or unlicensed practice, you may call our complaint hotline at 1-800-442-8106, contact our nearest regional office, or e-mail conduct@mail.nysed.gov for more information.

Q: If I want to file a complaint, do I have to be sure the professional is guilty?

A: No. If you think you may have been the victim of professional misconduct, file a complaint form (PDF). http://www.op.nysed.gov/opd-complaint.pdf
The Office of the Professions will look into the complaint and determine if misconduct has occurred.

Following Up on a Complaint

Q: What happens after I file a complaint?

A: Staff in the appropriate regional office follow up on each complaint. http://www.op.nysed.gov/opdoffs.htm
Members of the State Board for the profession may be consulted during the investigation. If substantial evidence of misconduct is found, we will pursue disciplinary action.

Cases of illegal (unlicensed) practice may be handled administratively, or they may be referred after investigation to the State Attorney General for criminal prosecution.
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Guest
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 05:55 PM


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Dr. Ellis commented on this here.

http://www.albertellis.info/EllisRebuttal.htm

Fact: Dr. Broder is not even licensed as a Psychologist in New York, and may therefore have himself committed numerous ethical violations over the course of several years.
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Julia
Posted: Nov 8 2005, 11:59 PM


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Wow, we're back in 6th grade again.


That's actually a pretty good statement, guest. A reasonably intelligent 6th grader could deconstruct the statements coming out of AEI without too much trouble. But the way you stated that obvious conclusion comes across as hostile.

Would it be considered off-topic if I mentioned Jung in an REBT forum? I mean, honestly, these smart aleck comments represent classic shadow projections. Maybe we'll start calling you Loki.

Here, try this. It's more your speed...

http://psikoloji.fisek.com.tr/jung/shadow.htm


Now, we return to our regular programming. Sorry for the interruption.
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Ann Jorn, PhD
Posted: Nov 9 2005, 01:51 AM


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I am have been reading the concerns about Dr. Broder?s lack of licensure in the State of New York. I can certainly understand people?s concerns about this matter but I would encourage all to remember that calmer heads always prevail. I think that more reasonable behavior would be promoted if people who post to this board identified themselves. I am Ann Jorn, PhD Fellow of the Albert Ellis Institute since 1999. I received my primary certification in 1991 and advanced certification in 1993. My area of practice is in pain management and coping with chronic illness. I practice in the State of Massachusetts.
This is an emotional time for the practitioners of REBT and I am sure for former and present clients of the Institute not to mention Dr. Ellis and his wife. However, I want to encourage my colleagues to remain sober-minded and professional in their conduct. I would remind those professionals who encourage making an ethical complaint against Dr. Broder while at the same time making disparaging comments about him smacks of retaliatory behavior. Making an ethical complaint under such conditions is prohibited by our ethical standards and by the law. Encouraging hypothesized clients to come forward and report that Broder is seeing them for therapy and encouraging them to make ethical complaints is not our proper role and places an undue burden on the client. If you, as a psychologist or other mental health practitioner, wish to make an ethical complaint then you had better make absolutely sure that you are behaving I an ethical manner in doing so. This requires that you consult. In the matter at hand, I would recommend that consultation be sought with colleagues outside of the realm of this controversy. There are several ethical concerns that I personally have. These concerns are not based on malice. They are based on my concerns for the reputation of fields of REBT and psychology and for the students and clients of the Albert Ellis Institute. I am also certainly concerned about Albert Ellis and the fact that he has to deal with this whole situation. I believe, however, that this concern is felt by professionals inside and outside of the field of REBT. Should my investigation lead me to conclude that unethical behavior has been engaged in by Dr. Broder, I will follow the proper channels and procedures and with due consideration make such a complaint.
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Rational Living
Posted: Nov 9 2005, 04:16 AM


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Dear Ann, as one of the moderators of this board let me make a few comments to address your concerns.

As far as this thread, Dr. Broder has admitted he is not licensed to practice in New York, and this is cause for valid concern, and for investigations into potential violations of the law by the authorities.

This board was set up as a venue for the free exchange of ideas and comments by former and current supporters, clients, and admirers of Albert Ellis entirely on their own personal volition, as a way to discuss Albert Ellis and his current struggles against the AEI board, who have illegally fired him contrary to the Section 3 bylaw of the AEI.
Section 3. Removal. Any Trustee may be removed at any time for cause by a vote of a majority of the entire Board at any special meeting of the Board called for that purpose, provided that at least one week's notice of the proposed action shall have been given to the entire Board of Trustees then in office.

The only reason this board exists is due to the AEI shutting down their web-forum, as current and former clients and customers of the AEI were making criticisms of Michael Broder's treatment of Dr. Ellis and his illegal firing of Albert Ellis.
In shutting down their web-forum, the AEI also deleted many posts from clients and customers of the AEI, and engaged in blatant, overt censorship and suppression of free speech.

Since you are a Fellow of the AEI, one would assume that you too would be offended that the AEI has engaged in outright suppression of free speech and open discussion by the customers of the AEI.

This board allows a venue for anonymous posting to protect free speech, and the open exchange of ideas and opinions for the supporters of Albert Ellis.
Some people choose to identify themselves, while others choose to remain anonymous.
If you read the posts here, you will see that many of them are from concerned citizens and former customers and clients of Dr. Ellis, people who have read his books, and have attended his workshops, who are expressing their own opinions and concerns over this serious issue.

Also, many insiders have clearly stated that Dr. Broder is extremely "vindictive", towards persons who speak out against him, and there have already been threats of more lawsuits made by Dr. Broder against anyone who dares to speak out and reveal the truth of what is going on.
This forum is an open place for the public to engage in legal discussion and free expression of their viewpoints of these events.

Since you are a Fellow of the AEI, it might be appropriate to also investigate why the AEI website has been taken over by many pages of one-sided, biased, misleading and false statements by Dr. Broder and his expensive PR firm, while not allowing Dr. Ellis' side of the issues to be presented.
In the interest of fairness and good faith, it would be helpful if the Fellows of the AEI called up Michael Broder and convinced him to post Dr. Ellis' detailed rebuttal on the "Albert Ellis Institute" website, alongside Dr. Broder's endless PR statements.
http://www.albertellis.info/EllisRebuttal.htm

Again, this public web-forum was opened and is managed by current and former customers of the AEI by their own personal volition out of concern of the illegal injustice that has happened to Dr. Ellis by the AEI board.
Anyone can post here, whether they are a mental health professional, a customer of the AEI, or simply someone who has benefited from reading Dr. Ellis' books and wants to openly share their ideas and concerns.

Best Regards,

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Posted: Nov 9 2005, 04:29 AM


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Gayle
Posted: Nov 9 2005, 05:38 AM


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Dr. Jorn,

Thank you for posting. It is an honor to have an AEI fellow among us here.

My full identity is known by Dr. Broder, Dr. McMahon, Rory Stuart, Dr. Vernon, Dr. Ellis, Dr. Joffe, Mr. McKelvey, and several other key individuals in this controversy. When I send letters to them, they are not anonymous.

I have chosen to withhold my full identity in the public discussion because it is against my own ethical principles to gain publicity for myself during the misfortunes of others. I hope that when people write to the involved parties they have the courtesy to fully identify themselves.

However, this is a public forum, a message board, a place where people can express their opinions. It is a casual arena where Freedom of Speech prevails. Participants are not required to identify themselves or their professional background. That is the nature of an internet forum. It is a great equalizer.

I hope you will keep us apprised of your investigation regarding your concerns for the reputation of the fields of REBT and psychology and for the students and clients of the Albert Ellis Institute, as well as your concern for Albert Ellis himself.

Your expertise in chronic illness may provide some special insight into this situation. Dr. Ellis has several chronic illnesses and a hearing disability. Those illnesses and disability seem to be at the heart of AEI's actions against him. I would very much appreciate learning from your experience. Whenever you feel the time is right. I would particularly be interested in your experiences in dealing with employment discrimination against people with diagnosed chronic illnesses and disability.

Gayle



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Guest
Posted: Nov 17 2005, 05:54 PM


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It is categorically unethical to list oneself as a professional in a state in which one is not licensed. In addition strict ethics require that a psychologist licensed in another state give a disclaimer when conducting activities that are likely to be construed as the practice of psychology in a state that he is not licensed.
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Guest
Posted: Nov 18 2005, 11:19 PM


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Formal complaints about Michael Broder are being drafted to the New York licensing authorities. These involve his advertising himself on the Albert Ellis Institute website, when he did not have a license to practice in New York; attempting to destroy the evidence that he had so advertised himself; and that he supervised trainee therapists at the Institute, in contravention of the licensing law.

Formal complains are also being drafted to the American Psychological Association (APA) about Michael Broder’s unethical behaviour throughout this palace coup.

Anybody who wants to get involved in these two projects, please send your contact details to
Jim Byrne abc4rebt@aol.com
or to John Minor, jrminor35@yahoo.com
and they will make sure they get to the project co-ordinators.
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