Gay Marriage, Gay Marriage

California just passed Gay Marriage Rights and people nation wide are flocking to California to get married.
The Question is GAY Marriage: Yes or No and Why?

I personally think it's funny that many people don't want religion taught in schools and kept out of the workplace, and yet no one seems to care how much it affects our government.


I say let two people who love each other get married, regardless of sex.

Though I love some of the arguments against it.


"It will destroy the American family!"
Like MTV did?

"What's next, people marrying animals?!"
I fail to see how homosexuality leads to beastiality.



Freedom of Religion? What about Freedom FROM Religion? Not that religion is bad, but it really shouldn't be something that controls the world. We already saw how that worked out from the end of the dark ages to the great schism. Corruption of the ruling parties of the world, people killed for disobeying church mandate, "Get into Heaven" cards which could be bought for yourself and relatives (living or dead).

The american family is dead. Furries are gay that proves it leads to beastiality!!!

Honestly I think the issue is pretty lol.

Come on, what kind of guy is like, "COME ON HONEY-BUNCH, LETS GET MARRIED," to his partner?

I honestly hate the idea of marriage. Maybe I'm just not ready to settle down or something, but marriage is a stupid idea in general. Do you honestly need a higher power to say, "Yes, you are now a couple. Your love may be consummated without guilt."

FUCK the court.
And if it's a gay marriage it's pretty likely that God wouldn't recognize it anyway.

People should stop being fags and start to actualize themselves in their own eyes.

Also, the people who are just doing it for a tax break can fuck themselves. I HATE taxes. If you want to partner with someone based solely on the fact that you'll pay less in taxes, you're a pretty shallow human being.

For one thing, marriage is important to a lot of people, because it allows them to share health insurance, credit and banking options, landlords will sometimes not rent out housing complexes to unmarried couples, ect ect.



Another reply to your post is that not everyone in the world are loveless creatures. In fact, our need for companionship is what drives quite a bit of the worlds nowadays.



And saying that you think god wouldn't recognize gay marriage is incredibly arrogant. Give me any good reason as for why you believe you can tell me what God would think.



Honestly, your whole argument is pretty childish. "Gays shouldn't get married because their fags! Nana, nanibooboo" childish.



And Furries are on a completely different level. That's a fettish, not a sexual orientation.

After reading and re-reading Rave's post, I can't see much slander directed at Gay Marriage.
All I see is criticism of marriage in general.

Maybe I was reading into some of the things he said too much, but

Even if said in a joking matter, that's still a statement against homosexuality.

From the tone it sounded like he was insinuating that only "gay pussy males" want a legal companionship.

This one should be obvious. Like I said, who is he to say what God really wants? As far as I can tell, homosexuals haven't caused another great flood (yet).

Fag is a pretty derogatory word in general, unless referring to a cigarette, which obviously he wasn't.

This isn't really slander, just doesn't have much to do with this topic. I'm gunna say the amount of people who get married for tax cuts is much lower than the amount of people who get married because they either a) love each other b) are in the heat of a moment c) knock their girlie up and their papa comes and points a shotgun at them.

So being that the original question was about GAY Marriage and not all marriage, I think his comments were unnecessary on top of being derogatory.

But hey, that's just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, or being too serious. Either way, I disagree with pretty much everything he said.

There are two things that I never argue about, and that's religion and politics. I think it's a complete waste of time, and frankly, I see little point or benefit in doing so. It has a tendency to become a circular argument where the debate loops back to right where it began, and repeat itself over and over again.

Gay marriage is the frightening consequence of these two taboos having molded together. There's going to be people who are against it, and there's going to be people who support it. These two groups are going to argue until their lungs give out and their faces turn blue, and at the end of the day, they'll still be running in place at the starting line. Without some sort of foundation to substantiate the argument, the argument itself will simply go nowhere.

I think people need to move past the whole "It's right, it's wrong" phase, be patient for a couple of years, and see what benefits or detriments have come into effect as a result of gay marriage, whether directly or indirectly. Then they can evaluate said pros and cons, take an informed stance on the argument, and act accordingly as they see fit. I realize most of this is wishful thinking, but at this point, it's the only stance I'm willing to take on the issue.

I'm mostly with Spritescaper on this issue. Except instead of not wanting to talk about it I just don't really care. If people want to get married and be homosexual americans then I'm actually quite fine with that. I do not like gay culture so much, and San Fran had a few too many pride flags for my liking, but I'm well skilled in looking in another direction and minding my own business. That's because I'm an adult and capable of living in harmony with society.

Also a lot of my post seems very arrogant now that I look back on it and a lot of it was bred in sleepyness.

I suppose the point I was trying to make is that my view of marriage itself is very low. I find it is unnecessary in the long run. If you actually love a person, it shouldn't matter how you're bound to them.

I once heard a comedian joke on the matter, "If straight people can go to vegas, get drunk, and make a mistake then, god damnit; gay people should be able to do the same.

Since I don't care about marriage in general, obviously I shouldn't be talking about it though. Most of the reason I posted to it is because I know Volcof and wanted to appear as ranty as possible.

Also I know nothing about furries. That statement was very cold. I have probably never met a furry in my entire life.

I hate to say it, but I agree with Rave on this one... sort of...

My personal opinion is that the government should stay out of our lives as much as possible, especially our love lives. What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is none of my or anyone else's business.

Why should I require the government's validation of who I chose to be with anyway? If it's for tax reasons, they should scrap the marriage requirement altogether and allow anyone who cohabitates and shares resources file a joint tax return. For example, if you lived with a sibling, or a best friend roommate. (Or better yet, go with a flat national sales tax... But that's an argument for another thread...)

But if we have to have the government involved, I say whatever. Marriage is just a piece of paper anyway; it's the relationship that counts. I know people who are married who hate each other, and people who have lived together for years without being married who are more in love than anyone you'll meet.

The only part of this whole deal that I really care to pay attention to is the lulz that will be had at the expense of gay couples who get married in California try to get a divorce in another state that doesn't recognize their marriage. Or the even greater lulz if the voters of California pass the gay marriage ban amendment that will be on the ballot in November, and several thousand marriages are instantly annulled. I won't be laughing because I am against gay marriage; rather, I will be laughing at the general misfortunes of that many people. LOL XD

I'm fine with gay marriage, marriage is just some union between two partners recognized by law so what difference does it make if it's two women or two men.

The way I see it is more straight people for straight people , more gay people for gay people, and the same amount for bisexual people.

Whoa.

Robert: That's Lulz gold right there!

Gays should have the same legal rights as men and women under the law, but that does not mean that the church, or anyone else, has to recognize that they are "together". Yes, you can frown on it, yes you can hate it, but honesty... WHO GIVES A FUCK?

"The only fair Tax is a Per capita Tax"
- some founding father guy


DB Edit: Damn it Brad, that was a double necropost before I smushed the two posts into each other.

This post has been edited by DB on Feb 25 2009, 01:52 AM