Title: The Kansas City Chiefs
REDiculous - January 30, 2006 04:34 AM (GMT)
I think Herm Edwards will have a good year in his first season. He believes Roaf, Shields, and Holmes are coming back for next year. If this happens, I am afraid the Chiefs are going to be cutting a couple young players on the team that have bright futures. But this team should be better than last years team. While they are getting older, the defense is getting better with some people like Kawika Mitchell and Greg Wesley improving last year. And with the schedule the Chiefs have, i can't see them being worse then 10-6. My early prediction for this team is 12-4.
REDiculous - February 24, 2006 04:17 AM (GMT)
Most sites are reporting the team to be about $23 million over the cap. Trent Green, who carries a cap hit of $8.3 million, has offered to restructure his contract, so the team can improve/keep some key players. But Carl Peterson was asked about this, Carl said that Trent didn't have to do that, and that he had it under control. He estimated the Chiefs to be 13-14 million over the cap.
Right now, i see the Chiefs cutting Eric Hicks, Dexter McCleon, Shawn Barber, maybe John Browning, and MAYBE Eric Warfield and Greg Wesley/Jerome Woods. I really hope they don't cut Wesley, as he became a real ball-hawk last year. Woods might already be gone, but it would cost the Chiefs more to cut him then it would to keep him on the roster.
DTlivesonthruDJ - February 25, 2006 05:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bgeorges @ Feb 23 2006, 11:17 PM) |
Most sites are reporting the team to be about $23 million over the cap. Trent Green, who carries a cap hit of $8.3 million, has offered to restructure his contract, so the team can improve/keep some key players. But Carl Peterson was asked about this, Carl said that Trent didn't have to do that, and that he had it under control. He estimated the Chiefs to be 13-14 million over the cap.
Right now, i see the Chiefs cutting Eric Hicks, Dexter McCleon, Shawn Barber, maybe John Browning, and MAYBE Eric Warfield and Greg Wesley/Jerome Woods. I really hope they don't cut Wesley, as he became a real ball-hawk last year. Woods might already be gone, but it would cost the Chiefs more to cut him then it would to keep him on the roster. |
Along with those guys, rotoworld.com has reported that they are considering cutting Kendrell Bell, although that seems almost impossible considering he probably carries a very large cap hit, and isnt worth it. I think, the best thing to do is just restructure Trent Greens contract and possibly Tony G's, which I hear is one of the highest on the teams - although he deserves it.
Either way, we will have a hard time bringing in a TO or Ty Law with our figures...
REDiculous - February 26, 2006 10:02 PM (GMT)
Reports right now are saying there is a very good chance that Tony Richardson will be playing for a different team next year. He is a free agent, and has said it wants to test the free agent waters. Richardson has been a very vital piece of the Chiefs offense for years now, and is probably behind only Lorenzo Neal as the best fullback in the NFL.
DTlivesonthruDJ - February 26, 2006 11:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bgeorges @ Feb 26 2006, 05:02 PM) |
| Reports right now are saying there is a very good chance that Tony Richardson will be playing for a different team next year. He is a free agent, and has said it wants to test the free agent waters. Richardson has been a very vital piece of the Chiefs offense for years now, and is probably behind only Lorenzo Neal as the best fullback in the NFL. |
Losing him will be a huge setback for our offense, he is our key block and has created a lot of time for Green, at QB.
Luke Paul Chandler - February 27, 2006 05:30 PM (GMT)
I heard a rumor on the radio about Kendrell Bell getting the ax (because the speculation was the Browns would sign him on the cheap to play here). Any truth to this?
nepg - February 27, 2006 06:21 PM (GMT)
Ya, that rumor is fairly solid. I wish every team had a site like Patscap.com... The KC Star reported that the Chiefs would save $4mil against the cap this year if they cut him, but his base salary is only $2.7mil (the other $1.3mil must be in a roster and workout bonus)...
DTlivesonthruDJ - February 28, 2006 03:29 AM (GMT)
I wasnt impressed with Kendrell at all, and would not be against him being cut. However, if we switch to a 3-4 defense, although very unlikely, I would be for keeping him - seeing he is only an impact player in the 3-4. Who knows though, being over the cap by this much is going to hurt the team a lot, especially with adding new talent through FA.
Matt Shumate - February 28, 2006 03:32 AM (GMT)
KC's going to stick w/ a 4-3. Herm's an expert in that regard, and they don't have the LBs anymore to pull off a 3-4. Barber's old & brittle, you let Fujita go...
REDiculous - February 28, 2006 04:11 AM (GMT)
I think the Chiefs would have the LBs to pull it off, it would be the D-line that would be the tricky part. Saivii could be a NT, but really hasn't proven anything yet. John Browning would be perfect for a 3-4 DE but he may not stay on the team. Ryan Sims would then get the other DE spot, but he hasn't proved anything really. For LBs, the Chiefs have Mitchell, Johnson, Bell, Fox, Scanlon, Grigsby, Stills, Griffin and Barber. Their LBs are pretty good, as Fox should be starting, and Scanlon was the NFL Europe DPOY last year, but is #3 on the depth chart i believe at MLB because Grigsby is everything that Gunther looks for in a LB. The big question for me if the Chiefs ran a 3-4 would be if Jared Allen would be able to drop to a linebacker. I know a bit last year they were playing Allen up like he would be a 3-4 OLB, as it looked like they were testing how well he would do standing up. But his coverage skills probably wouldn't be all that great. And you can't just take him off the field as he has been the only productive player on your d-line. I think Gun will experiment with the 3-4 this year because Gun loves to blitz, and you have so many more options of blitzing with a 3-4 than you do with a 4-3. But the Chiefs i would say will be at about 80-85% 4-3 this year between a 4-3 and 3-4 defense.
I would imagine the Chiefs will cut Bell. It would save him money, and i believe Keyaron Fox should be starting at the strongside spot. He really impressed coaches last year during training camp and preseason, but was put on Injured Reserve early in the season. I read on ESPN last season that teams were running certain types of offenses that would either keep Bell off the field or neutrelize him, making him a non-factor. He is fast, but i just didn't see him do anything last year that would warrant the contract he got. Granted, not only did he switch from ILB to OLB, but he switched schemes as well, moving from a 3-4 defense to a 4-3 defense. But Carl Peterson believes that the Chiefs don't need Trent Green to restructure his contract, so maybe he is planning on cutting Kendrell Bell.
nepg - February 28, 2006 05:41 AM (GMT)
The Chiefs got rid of all the personnel they had that would have fit into a 3-4...
Gunther's 4-3 was too effective last year to go away from it now. If they switch to any other defensive scheme, it'd probably be the Tampa 2.
Matt Shumate - February 28, 2006 01:49 PM (GMT)
Or as close to it as the Jets ran last year (not very). It'll be a cover 2 style; I just don't think it'll be the Tampa 2 w/ the deep MLB. I don't think you'll see Kawika deep.
REDiculous - March 10, 2006 05:09 PM (GMT)
The Chiefs have a little bit of money to work with, but have decided to bring back some players instead of spending money on the big free agents for a few days. They are going to try and bring back Tony Richardson and Lional Dalton. Carlos Hall is also an UFA, but no word on if the Chiefs are going to try and bring him back. I want to see how Jordan Black is handled. I definately want to bring him back, as he could play either guard or tackle for the Chiefs.
Also, instead of brining in alot of new players, the Chiefs are going to try and extend the contracts of players whose contracts expire this year. This means Tony Gonzalez(which Carl Peterson said would be the first thing done this offseason), Jared Allen, and Kawika Mithcell.
REDiculous - March 12, 2006 07:10 PM (GMT)
The end of a great era in KC has come to an end folks. The Chiefs have signed long snapper Adam Johnson, almost guaranteeing the retirement of Kendall Gammon, the prototype 100 year old NFL long snapper.
REDiculous - March 14, 2006 06:20 AM (GMT)
Will Shields has signed a 4-year extension, giving the Chiefs 10.5 million in salary cap space
Rocky Benard and Will Allen visiting the Chiefs.
Kendrell Bell is going to be used more as a passrusher this year. Look for the Chiefs to use him like they did Derrick Thomas. But I wonder if they will keep him on the strongside if he does that. DJ needs to stay on the weakside, but keeping Bell at the Sam would keep him next to Jared Allen. It would be better to line him opposite of Allen. Then again, Allen could play LDE. Also, Gun is raving about his linebackers, so expect alot more 3-4 out of this team. He did an interview last week, and basically said everything that i said in an above post about the defense, about not having the d-line for a 3-4.
updated look at how Arrowhead might look after renovation. The Chiefs were awarded Super Bowl 49 in 2015.
It won't let me post the picture for some reason
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/D0D9E...593340621648754
Luke Paul Chandler - March 14, 2006 06:18 PM (GMT)
That'll be good for Kendrell. He could be a Peter Boulware type, and them put his hand down on 3rd down.
David Barrionuevo - March 14, 2006 06:56 PM (GMT)
bgeorges, how seriously are the Chiefs pursuing/intending to pursue Rocky? With the Hutchinson situation ongoing, I think I'd kill myself if the Seahawks lost out on both Hutch and Rocky. Not to mention Marquand Manuel and Joe Jurevicius already leaving.
Bernard is a tremendous pass rusher who decimates the pocket from the DT spot and he's part of the reason why the Seahawks were tops in the league in sacks. Struggles against the run a bit, but he more than makes up for it against the pass.
Luke Paul Chandler - March 14, 2006 08:13 PM (GMT)
More on Kendrell, I think that is a phenomenal move. He's a great downfield player. I think people need to realize that fast doesn't always equal good pass protector.
REDiculous - March 15, 2006 03:45 AM (GMT)
i haven't been able to read into alot b/c i just got home, and usually the Chiefs tend to keep quiet about how hard they are pushing for somebody. I would really love for Bernard to come to the Chiefs. Like you said, he can penetrate very well. I am not too worried about stopping the run, as the Chiefs linebackers are the strength of the defense, and they had the #8 rush defense in the league last year. But the problem was pass defense, and getting penetration from anywhere but Jared Allen and SOMETIMES Browning/Dalton. With Bell becoming more of a pass rusher, and then adding Bernard, it would make the defense much better. But the Chiefs only got $10.4 million to work with, and IMO they HAVE to bring in another cornerback. Right now they have Surtain, and then they have Julian Battle as the #2. Battle has great athleticism, but he never learns from his mistakes and tries to use his hands too much downfield. They also have Alphonso Hodge, but he spent most of the season the practice squad so he wouldn't contend for anything. Benny Sapp has alot of speed and can be a pretty good nickel man, but he makes too many mistakes. If the Chiefs can get Bernard and another veteran corner like Will Allen, i would be pretty happy. But the FA they have to try and sign first is Tony Richardson.
CastorTroy - March 15, 2006 04:55 AM (GMT)
The Steelers already tried to have Bell become more proficient in the art of pass coverage as they wanted to use his blitzing ability in their nickel package but he has never been able to put it together neither as a Steeler nor as a Chiefs.
REDiculous - March 15, 2006 05:01 AM (GMT)
which is why its such a great idea to put him on the line of scrimmage more often.
REDiculous - March 19, 2006 06:22 PM (GMT)
ok, Kendall Gammon resigned with the Chiefs, all is right in the world now.
NFLJunky - March 19, 2006 06:23 PM (GMT)
Luke Paul Chandler - March 21, 2006 08:29 PM (GMT)
The other that helps is that contrary to popular belief, Bell is a horrible pass rusher with his hand on the ground. He has no concept of how to pass rush unless it's standing up.
REDiculous - April 2, 2006 07:41 AM (GMT)
lennny wall has come to save the day
REDiculous - April 19, 2006 05:56 AM (GMT)
the Chiefs signed another CB in Chris Young. No clear cut #2 starter, but the Chiefs have some pretty good depth at the cornerback position.
REDiculous - April 28, 2006 04:11 AM (GMT)
The Chiefs have resigned Jordan Black.
Also, the Chiefs are very high on Casey Printers right now. In Carl Peterson's reign as GM, the Chiefs have only used 2 first day choices on QBs, and both of them pretty much sucked. The Chiefs have usually signed veteran free agents or traded for veterans to lead the team. I think that if Brodie Croyle is there in the 3rd, the Chiefs should grab him, but right now its looking as though the Chiefs wouldn't even do that. Carl Peterson doesn't like drafting qb's high in the draft, and it appears its going to be like that this weekend also.
REDiculous - May 12, 2006 06:12 PM (GMT)
Word out of KC is that Alphonso Hodge is the starting #2 corner heading into training camp.
Peter Shumate - May 12, 2006 06:13 PM (GMT)
nepg - May 12, 2006 07:36 PM (GMT)
I like Hodge. Really, if Herm Edwards is running the team, you don't have to worry too much about the secondary. He knows wtf he's doing there. I think combining him with Gunther is huge since Gunther is great with the front 7, but not so much with the secondary, and they both have the same philosophy about getting penetration with the down linemen.
REDiculous - May 27, 2006 10:20 PM (GMT)
The media is finally catching onto OT Will Svitek, or V-Tek as some Chiefs fans are now callin him. Since the World Bowl was today, different writers have been puting together articles about Svitek, and how he could possibly be Roaf's replacement. The guy is really coming along for only playing OT for 13 months now.
Matt Shumate - May 28, 2006 12:28 AM (GMT)
Hey BG, what's going on with John Welbourn?
REDiculous - May 28, 2006 02:23 AM (GMT)
He's not exactly the right tackle they are looking for. To what i understand, the Chiefs traded for him to play right tackle for a season or two, and then take over for Will Shields at right guard. This is the reason why i dont like alot of the mock drafts i see for the Chiefs on the internet. They have "Will Shield's replacement" in the first three rounds usually. But Welbourn is now heading into his third season with the Chiefs, and since Shields is still around, he is going to contend for the right tackle spot, but i think Kevin Sampson is going to win that job, or Jordan Black. That is, if the Chiefs dont try Svitek at RT. But they should keep Svitek at left tackle, so where he can concentrate on learning that. That, and Svitek is better suited for the left side.
Right now, the right tackle spot is up for grabs for the following:
Kevin Sampson(favorite)
Jordan Black
John Welbourn
Jeremy Parquet
maybe Svitek
werebarret - May 29, 2006 09:19 PM (GMT)
It pisses me off that that ordinance wasnt passed.
REDiculous - June 11, 2006 08:30 PM (GMT)
The Chiefs and Kyle Turley have agreed on a 2-year deal. He'll spend time at both tackle and tight end. Not sure if i like this move or not. He will be insurance if Roaf goes down to my understanding because Black wasnt ready to do it last year. But if he does indeed make the team, this will mean one of the promising younger tackles will not make the team.
Also, the Chiefs signed NFLEL veteran WR Scott McCready.
Ok, a little update. It actually looks like Turley is expected to be around 290 or so at the start of the season and might start at the right tackle position.
And its going to be real tough for McCready to make the team, as 10 WRs are fighting for the last two wide receiver spots, which should go to Craphonso Thorpe and Jeris McIntyre.
REDiculous - July 13, 2006 05:53 AM (GMT)
Chiefs have reworked a deal with Willie Roaf. It gives them more cap room, supposedly to sign Ty Law.
REDiculous - July 28, 2006 05:59 AM (GMT)
training camp. tomorrow. totally stoked.
REDiculous - July 28, 2006 04:02 PM (GMT)
Jojo - July 28, 2006 04:17 PM (GMT)
Svitek iis listed as 3rd string behind Black & Roaf, but I think the just moved up a notch.
Why TH did Roaf sign a new deal with the team, then announce retirement 4 months later? Was he waiting on a doctor's prognosis on his hamstring?
Matt Shumate - July 28, 2006 04:19 PM (GMT)
He never signed a new deal. Shields did.