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Posted: Jun 23 2009, 03:39 AM


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I saw on German television about a confrontation between the angels and Bandidos in Neu Munster, does anyone know anything in english about it?
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http://www.spiegel.de/international/german...,632516,00.html

In english, and plenty in German on line.
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thanks, i was trying to paste the article here but couldn´t. but it does look like the press is overblowing the problem again.
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'Explosive' biker gang war grips Germany

Published: 1 Jul 09 13:15 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090701-20317.html

The northern German state of Schleswig-Holstein is in the midst of a biker gang war as the Bandidos move into the Hells Angels territory. Police have conducted raids in recent days, daily Hamburger Abendblatt reported on Wednesday.

“The situation is explosive,” Detlev Zawadzki, director of the state department for organized crime, told the paper, adding that the worst fighting was still to come.

Since mid-May, the Texas-based Bandidos have been trying to get a foothold in Germany’s northern-most territory, in which nine Hells Angels clubs and crews are located. Since then, police have been called to a number of incidents involving the gangs, the paper said.

Kiel and Neumünster have both been heavily affected. On June 21, police responded to a shooting at a house in Neumünster. Four shots were fired into the living room window but no one was hurt. Officials say it was gang related but no further details have been released on the incident.

Three days later in Kiel, the Hells Angels held a rally. Police shut down the gathering when participants violated traffic laws. A day later, on June 25, the Hells Angels announced on their website that Kiel and Rendsburg clubs for Bandidos were gone.

Police carried out raids on the Bandidos, confiscating weapons. On June 26, a 50-centimetre machete was taken from Neumünster Bandidos supporters as well as a baseball bat and pepper spray. Three days later, police raided more houses in Neumünster as well as some in Kiel and the surrounding area. Guns, ammunition and another machete were seized, the paper reported.

This isn’t the first time the Bandidos and the Hells Angels have clashed in Germany. In December 2008, 14 Hells Angels were found guilty by a court in Hannover of assault and robbery after they raided a Bandidos club house in Stuhr in March 2006. Three are serving time while the rest were given suspended sentences.

In May 2007, two Bandidos members murdered a Hells Angels member in Ibbenbüren, one hour north of Dortmund in North Rhine-Westphalia. Both were given life sentences in June 2008.

Police are hoping the state will bring in a zero-tolerance policy in light of the recent gang wars. The Hells Angels have been banned in Hamburg for 20 years, but Zawadzki warned that this law isn’t the solution.

“Even when the group is gone, the people who were the members are still there,” he told the state-wide newspaper Schleswig-Holstein Zeitungsverlag.



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A member of Bandidos mc Germany has been killed in Berlin. Latest incident in the ongoing war between HA and Bandidos in Germany.

Bloody gang war in Berlin Renegade rocker shot dead in the street

14.08.2009 - 11:54 UHR

Berlin has been gripped by a bloody gang war after a renegade rocker was shot dead on Thursday night by a rival group.

BILD has discovered that the victim, Michael B., was a leading member of the 'Bandidos' rocker gang.

But he had just switched from the rival 'Hells Angels' gang - was he executed for his defection?

The shots were fired from a black delivery van as Michael was walking along the street at midnight. A bullet hit him directly in the heart and an artery in his thigh was also badly damaged.

Residents in Hohenschönhausen in the east of the city heard shots around midnight, according to a police spokesman. The gang member was found lying in the street outside an apartment block.

The victim was 33 and lived in the area, and was familiar to police from the rocker scene. He managed to drag himself about 200 metres before he collapsed and died.

A doctor tried to resuscitate him but it was too late. An autopsy should be carried out later today to find out the exact cause of death.

The investigation has been taken over by the State Office of Criminal Investigation and a murder commission. No suspects have been identified yet but they are the hunt for the black delivery van.

An eyewitness reported that the area was flooded with police. The entire block was closed off.

Initial reports that the victim was the leader of a rocker group called ‘Bandidos’ have not been confirmed.

Some rocker gangs, such as the ‘Bandidos’ and ‘Hells Angels’, are bitter rivals and have been waging a bloody war with each other in Germany for years with contract killings and assaults.
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QUOTE (Peter @ Jul 1 2009, 10:00 PM)
'Explosive' biker gang war grips Germany

Published: 1 Jul 09 13:15 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090701-20317.html

The northern German state of Schleswig-Holstein is in the midst of a biker gang war as the Bandidos move into the Hells Angels territory. Police have conducted raids in recent days, daily Hamburger Abendblatt reported on Wednesday.

“The situation is explosive,” Detlev Zawadzki, director of the state department for organized crime, told the paper, adding that the worst fighting was still to come.

Since mid-May, the Texas-based Bandidos have been trying to get a foothold in Germany’s northern-most territory, in which nine Hells Angels clubs and crews are located. Since then, police have been called to a number of incidents involving the gangs, the paper said.

Kiel and Neumünster have both been heavily affected. On June 21, police responded to a shooting at a house in Neumünster. Four shots were fired into the living room window but no one was hurt. Officials say it was gang related but no further details have been released on the incident.

Three days later in Kiel, the Hells Angels held a rally. Police shut down the gathering when participants violated traffic laws. A day later, on June 25, the Hells Angels announced on their website that Kiel and Rendsburg clubs for Bandidos were gone.

Police carried out raids on the Bandidos, confiscating weapons. On June 26, a 50-centimetre machete was taken from Neumünster Bandidos supporters as well as a baseball bat and pepper spray. Three days later, police raided more houses in Neumünster as well as some in Kiel and the surrounding area. Guns, ammunition and another machete were seized, the paper reported.

This isn’t the first time the Bandidos and the Hells Angels have clashed in Germany. In December 2008, 14 Hells Angels were found guilty by a court in Hannover of assault and robbery after they raided a Bandidos club house in Stuhr in March 2006. Three are serving time while the rest were given suspended sentences.

In May 2007, two Bandidos members murdered a Hells Angels member in Ibbenbüren, one hour north of Dortmund in North Rhine-Westphalia. Both were given life sentences in June 2008.

Police are hoping the state will bring in a zero-tolerance policy in light of the recent gang wars. The Hells Angels have been banned in Hamburg for 20 years, but Zawadzki warned that this law isn’t the solution.

“Even when the group is gone, the people who were the members are still there,” he told the state-wide newspaper Schleswig-Holstein Zeitungsverlag.

typical police propoganda, they seize a machete and a baseball bat,
how many people in germany own these items?
i know many elderly and others that have machetes they use for farm and garden work, it isn´t against the law here in germany, and god forbid, how many own baseball bats?
Afterall, there are so many americans here and baseball is played a lot here.
what "BS " the cops feed the public, just because you are a biker, does that mean you don´t play sports?
The real problem here in Germany is the HA have paid off so many prosecuting attorneys and cops that the HA are getting away with murder. I know this for a fact, as just a few years ago, the prosecutors let off a leading HA money launderer and now this guy has a big shop and throws money to the wind, including partying with local police.
It is a bullshit one sided war, the HA use the German goverment to get rid of their rivals.
What is really a good exscuse the police and state use is that they clamp down on the HA name, but the same assholes are still here under the 81 sign and the police know it.
Maybe the state should start looking into more HA corruption with the police than a so called biker war.
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Pictures and links here: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4598039,00.html

Brandenburg bans motorcycle gang

The eastern German state of Brandenburg has outlawed a biker gang active in various criminal dealings. Interior minister Joerg Schoenbohm says the federal government should consider a national ban of such groups.

The interior ministry of Brandenburg in eastern Germany banned the small motorcycle gang "Chicanos MC Barnim" on Monday. According to a press statement by the ministry, the move was part of a "forceful zero tolerance strategy" against rocker crime.

"This ban is a clear signal that we will counter this rocker trouble with all means legally at our disposal," said interior minister Joerg Schoenbohm. "The formation and expansion of criminal associations will not be tolerated."

Schoenbohm said the rocker scene would be well advised to take this "sign of our resolve" very seriously.

Weapons instead of motorcycles

The gang, based in Eberswalde near Berlin, was founded in February 2009 and has 14 members. Police officials in Frankfurt/Oder searched members' apartments and the club house. Extensive documents and objects were seized, the ministry said. Authorities have also banned the organization's website.

Local media report that hardly any of the members even had a motorcycle. But the police did find an array of weapons: Samurai swords, cudgels, brass knuckles and pistols. These were used to exert influence in the bouncer and drug scene in the region.

Motorcycle gangs have been rivaling each other across Germany for a number of years. But police authorities said the degree of violence in Berlin and Brandenburg has escalated in the past few months. Rocker gangs are competing for greater influence and more money in drug traffic and prostitution, as well as in the bouncer scene.

"The criminal activities of rocker gangs include offences which tend to occur behind closed doors, such as money laundering, blackmail, forging, arson or violation of narcotics and weapons laws," Schoenbohm said.

There has been a series of attacks and shootings in Brandenburg and Berlin in the past few weeks as a result of gang wars between the Bandidos and their arch rivals, the Hells Angels. Earlier this month, a gang member in Berlin who had switched from the Hells Angels to join the Bandidos was murdered.

A national ban?

The ministry said it hoped to use the findings from this case to take action against rocker gangs together with other states and the federal government.

Schoenbohm has called for a national ban of gangs such as the Hells Angels or the Bandidos. However, the federal interior minister can only implement such a ban if the states concerned file a common petition. Schoenbohm said he and his counterpart in Berlin, Ehrhart Koerting, had agreed on a collective course of action in the matter.

"If we have the opportunity for success together, then we will do so," he said.
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QUOTE (Peter @ Aug 26 2009, 12:54 AM)
Pictures and links here: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4598039,00.html

Brandenburg bans motorcycle gang

The eastern German state of Brandenburg has outlawed a biker gang active in various criminal dealings. Interior minister Joerg Schoenbohm says the federal government should consider a national ban of such groups.

The interior ministry of Brandenburg in eastern Germany banned the small motorcycle gang "Chicanos MC Barnim" on Monday. According to a press statement by the ministry, the move was part of a "forceful zero tolerance strategy" against rocker crime.

"This ban is a clear signal that we will counter this rocker trouble with all means legally at our disposal," said interior minister Joerg Schoenbohm. "The formation and expansion of criminal associations will not be tolerated."

Schoenbohm said the rocker scene would be well advised to take this "sign of our resolve" very seriously.

Weapons instead of motorcycles

The gang, based in Eberswalde near Berlin, was founded in February 2009 and has 14 members. Police officials in Frankfurt/Oder searched members' apartments and the club house. Extensive documents and objects were seized, the ministry said. Authorities have also banned the organization's website.

Local media report that hardly any of the members even had a motorcycle. But the police did find an array of weapons: Samurai swords, cudgels, brass knuckles and pistols. These were used to exert influence in the bouncer and drug scene in the region.

Motorcycle gangs have been rivaling each other across Germany for a number of years. But police authorities said the degree of violence in Berlin and Brandenburg has escalated in the past few months. Rocker gangs are competing for greater influence and more money in drug traffic and prostitution, as well as in the bouncer scene.

"The criminal activities of rocker gangs include offences which tend to occur behind closed doors, such as money laundering, blackmail, forging, arson or violation of narcotics and weapons laws," Schoenbohm said.

There has been a series of attacks and shootings in Brandenburg and Berlin in the past few weeks as a result of gang wars between the Bandidos and their arch rivals, the Hells Angels. Earlier this month, a gang member in Berlin who had switched from the Hells Angels to join the Bandidos was murdered.

A national ban?

The ministry said it hoped to use the findings from this case to take action against rocker gangs together with other states and the federal government.

Schoenbohm has called for a national ban of gangs such as the Hells Angels or the Bandidos. However, the federal interior minister can only implement such a ban if the states concerned file a common petition. Schoenbohm said he and his counterpart in Berlin, Ehrhart Koerting, had agreed on a collective course of action in the matter.

"If we have the opportunity for success together, then we will do so," he said.

the german police are like the old gestapo, they use tactics that they claim are legal, but in all actuality it is gestapo tactics aimed at freedom of bikers and freedom of the press.
the goverment bans internet sites and is no better than what hitler and the nazis did in earlier years, what is really shit here is the police and goverment make laws up as they want and half the time they are one sided, and corrupt.
it is okay for Hells Angels to kill or do crimes, as for other clubs, the police crack down for nothing, I am a firm believer the after living here, that we are slowly turning into a corrupt gestapo state.
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Another Bandidos mc Germany member has been shot and killed. The killer is believed to be this person, a prospect with HA mc Germany.

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An article in English about the latest killing. There is a lot in German out there on line.

Man shot in Duisburg biker bar bathroom
9 Oct 09 08:09 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/society/20091009-22449.html

A 32-year-old man is dead after a shoot-out at a biker gang bar in Duisburg, police in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia said on Friday morning.

Paramedics found the man, who had sustained a severe head injury, in the Hochfeld district establishment’s bathroom on Thursday evening. He died shortly thereafter at a nearby hospital, police said.

According to witnesses, several shots were fired at the “Bandidos Place” bar, which is a known meeting point for the similarly named Texas-based biker gang embroiled in a rivalry with the Hells Angels. Both are suspected of organised crime activities.

Police are searching for several vehicles that were seen fleeing the bar after the shooting. Investigators remain uncertain about whether the incident was related to the biker gang feud.

Biker violence in Europe has made headlines periodically in recent months in what police have called an escalating gang war. In August a member of a biker gang was shot and killed in Berlin’s Hohenschönhausen district.
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Huge funeral during the weekend for the killed Bandido member. Up to 1500 members and others turned up.

Some pictures here: http://www.rp-online.de/public/bildershowi...chrichten/49157
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Drug-dealing biker gang busted

Published: 25 Oct 09 14:46 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091025-22809.html

The notorious German biker gang and organised criminal organisation the Bandidos was the target of a nationwide police operation which caught 15 suspected drug-dealers and smugglers.

Raids across Germany in recent weeks have resulted in the arrest of several suspected members of the gang, and the confiscation of over a hundred kilos of cocaine, marijuana, hash, amphetamines and thousands of Ecstasy tablets.

Investigators searched around 50 apartments and houses in northern Germany and Rhineland-Palatinate, as well as a Bandidos club house.

Miriam Cruchter, an investigator at the Customs Criminal Investigation Office told the news magazine Focus, "We have started to notice more and more Bandidos members are drug couriers and dealers. We will have to keep closer tabs on them."

Police identified a 27-year-old gang member from the small town of Oranienburg just outside Berlin as one of the main coordinators of the drug ring. Reports say he repeatedly smuggled hash and cocaine into the country and sold it. The suspect is a member of the Chicanos, described as a supporting sub-group of the Bandidos.

The Bandidos are embroiled in a European-wide rivalry with the Hells Angels, another biker gang suspected of organised crime activities, that has often descended into violence.

A 32-year-old man was killed in a shoot-out at a Bandidos bar in Duisburg in North Rhine-Westphalia earlier this month, and in August a member of a biker gang was shot and killed in Berlin’s Hohenschönhausen district.
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Biker gang brawl followed by a grenade attack

Published: 1 Nov 09 11:39 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091101-22957.html

Up to 100 police officers were called to a pub in Duisburg on Saturday evening to break up a fight between rival biker gangs the Bandidos and Hells Angels, meanwhile a grenade attack followed several hours later.

Around 50 Hells Angels armed with sticks stormed a red-light district bar called The Fat Mexican, which is frequented by rival biker gang the Bandidos, police reported.

The bar was smashed to pieces during the ensuing brawl and several people were injured before police managed to herd everyone outside and separate the two gangs.

News agency AP reported that several hours later someone lobbed a hand grenade through the window of the Hells Angels’ clubhouse in Solingen, where about 20 people were inside.

The grenade did not go off, and police later detonated the device in a controlled explosion.

A police spokesman said he could "not rule out" the possibility that the Bandidos were behind the attack.

Fears of an outbreak of violence between the two biker gangs were sparked in October when a 32-year-old man was shot dead outside the Fat Mexican – which is on the ground floor of the Bandidos’ club building. The dead man was a Bandido, while the suspected killer is a man with connections to the Hells Angels.
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Too bad the grenade did not go off. The Bandidos pulled a boner.
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Crime experts suggest ban on biker gangs

Published: 2 Nov 09 08:09 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091102-22963.html

A organization representing German police officers has called for a ban on biker gangs, following a weekend of violence between the Hells Angels and Bandidos, daily Rheinische Post reported.

“The incidences in Duisburg, Solingen and Essen specifically involve conflicts between organised crime groups that have the highest potential for violence,” acting leader of the BDK criminal investigative alliance, Wilfried Albishausen, told the daily Rheinische Posten.

“In such cases the state needs to show its colours, particularly if one affects one or another follower with the ban.”

Albishausen advocated a change to laws in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where much of the violence between the two gangs has taken place. A state parliamentary committee is set to address the issue this month.

“It must be possible for the police to conduct surveillance of telephone and data exchange when the worst crimes threaten to occur with a court ruling and not only when a crime has already occurred,” he told the paper.

Inside law enforcement sources told the paper that police plan to create a statewide special criminal commission based in Münster to handle increasing criminal activity between the two gangs.

Over the weekend up to 100 police officers were called to a pub in Duisburg to break up a fight between the rival biker gangs, meanwhile a grenade attack followed several hours later.

Around 50 Hells Angels armed with sticks stormed a red-light district bar called The Fat Mexican, which is frequented by rival biker gang the Bandidos, police reported.

The bar was smashed to pieces during the ensuing brawl and several people were injured before police managed to herd everyone outside and separate the two gangs.

News agency AP reported that several hours later someone lobbed a hand grenade through the window of the Hells Angels’ clubhouse in Solingen, where about 20 people were inside.

The grenade did not go off, and police later detonated the device in a controlled explosion.

Later shots were fired at a Hells Angels clubhouse in Solingen, but no one was injured, police said.

Fears of an outbreak of violence between the two biker gangs were sparked in October when a 32-year-old man was shot dead outside the Fat Mexican – which is on the ground floor of the Bandidos’ club building. The dead man was a Bandido, while the suspected killer is a man with connections to the Hells Angels.
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What is the world coming to? rolleyes.gif

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02/04/2010
The Bandidos Who Got Away
Mass Biker Defection Has Berlin Bracing for Violence


By Jörg Diehl, Thomas Heise and Claas Meyer-Heuer

There has never been a shortage of brutality between the biker gangs Bandidos and Hell's Angels. But after 70 members of a Berlin club defected to their erstwhile rivals, police in the German capital are bracing for violence.

It's only been a few months since a group of Bandidos allegedly ambushed and assaulted a group of Hell's Angels, their arch-enemies in the biker gang world, in Finowfurt, a small town northeast of Berlin. Investigators and prosecutors say that at least half a dozen Berlin-based Banditos chased down a group of Hell's Angels from the city, resulting in a savage fight.

When all was said and done, a gravely wounded Hell's Angels hanger-on named Enrico K. was lying on the street -- with an axe in his leg. When the police questioned him about what had happened, he attributed his gruesome wound to "a traffic accident."

In the biker system of values, there have always been two constants. One is the sacred "code of silence." The other is the hatred for enemy biker clubs. As such, a recent development in the Berlin biker scene -- first reported by SPIEGEL TV and SPIEGEL ONLINE on Wednesday -- is as unprecedented as it is explosive.

A total of 76 members and supporters of "Centro," as the Berlin chapter of the Bandidos is known, are reportedly trying to defect to the Hell's Angels camp. Investigators say the would-be defectors have already appeared in public wearing brand-new red-and-white Hell's Angels garb, and that they have seen André S., the head of the local Hell's Angels club, speaking with members of the rival club. The 45-year-old S. was recently stabbed -- likely by Bandidos.

Biker Defection

Officials believe that Frank H., the head of the Hell's Angels club in Hanover, hammered out the details of the defection last week with "Centro" leader Kadir P. Likewise, Peter M., one of the highest-ranking Bandidos in Europe, confirmed to SPIEGEL ONLINE that the crossover took place on Tuesday evening. However, when questioned about the matter, Hell's Angels member Rudolf "Django" T. declined to confirm that the defectors had been accepted into his organization yet, saying only: "We'll let you know in the next few days."

While the defecting members of "Centro" -- both notorious and feared in the biker scene for their violence -- have cut ties with their old group, it appears that their membership in Hell's Angels has not yet been finalized. But the bikers have stripped their club house in Berlin's northern Reinickendorf district of all Bandido insignia.

Brutal Confrontations

Recent months have seen an uptick in violence between the rival motorcycle gangs -- particularly in Berlin, the northern state of Schleswig-Holstein and eastern Germany. And the attacks have been escalating, from knife assaults to shootings to explosives. The reason: the Bandidos have managed to recruit hundreds of young men, many of them from immigrant families in Germany's east, and put the Hell's Angels on the defensive.

Kadir P's "Centro" chapter has proven particularly brutal in this ongoing feud, and difficult to control. Its members have repeatedly made savage attacks on rivals in the Hell's Angels camp, which has close ties to the far-right fan club of a local football club. Indeed, one newspaper article recently reported that the Hell's Angels in Berlin refuse to allow foreigners into their ranks.

Now, however, the brutality would appear to have been forgiven and forgotten -- the avowed enemies may soon become brothers in arms.

In the meantime, police units have taken up positions in front of the Bandidos' clubhouse in Berlin. Investigators also say that biker-related properties have been kept under observations in Berlin and the surrounding state of Brandenburg since Tuesday evening. "We want to see whether a war breaks out," one investigator told SPIEGEL TV.

Nobody knows, after all, how the Bandidos will react to this mass defection. Revenge and retaliation? Do the "traitors" now have to fear for their lives? In short, what does the defection mean?

"That they're gone," says Peter M., the number-two man in Europe's Bandidos organization, before hanging up the phone.
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I'd really like to see how this plays out, the newspapers are good at creating headlines to sell newspapers.But how many full patched members of the Bandidos, really jumped ship to the Angels?


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6 members according to BMC Germany.

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Hells Angel kills German commando

A member of the Hells Angels biker gang shot dead an elite police officer in Germany on Wednesday during a raid in a red-light district, prosecutors said.

As officers prepared to storm the man's apartment in the western city of Anhausen, the 43-year-old suspect fired off two shots through the door without warning, hitting the SEK commando at least once in the arm.

The 42-year-old was wearing a bulletproof vest but standing at an angle to the door, leaving his side exposed.

"Although there was a doctor on the scene, the officer was so seriously wounded that he died quickly, probably of internal bleeding," the prosecutor's office in nearby Koblenz said in a statement.

Police were conducting an operation over turf battles between rival gangs running prostitutes in the area.

The suspect will likely face murder charges, the statement said.
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I love the amount of up to date FREE information you can recieve becuase of google.
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The Irish Times - Friday, April 9, 2010

Bikers' 'code of honour' brings cycle of violence to sedate Berlin

BERLIN DIARY: The Hells Angels and rival Bandidos gang have been engaging in riots, street battles and shootings, writes DEREK SCALLY

MICHAEL WAS on the way home from the supermarket last September when the killer struck, knocking him down from behind and driving a knife into his thigh.

The 33-year-old dropped his shopping – jam, a beer and a bottle of cola – and tried to flee when a bullet from a small-calibre pistol penetrated his back and ripped through his heart.

He struggled on for another 100 metres before collapsing in a pool of his own blood as his killer disappeared down a side street in Berlin’s eastern neighbourhood of Hohenschönhausen.

Police blame the killing on the victim’s decision to leave Berlin’s Hells Angels and join the rival Bandidos gang. In the six months since then, the killing has triggered gang warfare unheard of in the normally peaceful German capital, running street battles that have hardened local attitudes to the rocker groups.

Until now, you could be forgiven for mistaking the local Hells Angels – heavyset middle- aged men in leather jackets on custom Harley-Davidsons – as just another part of Berlin’s love affair with the 1980s that includes mullet haircuts, Bonnie Tyler and stone-washed denim.

The Hells Angels – apostrophes are for wimps – was founded in California in 1948 and the Berlin Hells Angels arrived in 1990. They also answer to the name “Bad City Crew” but bristle if anyone calls their “motorcycle club” a “gang”.

Spokesman Django – real name Rudolf – describes the Hells Angels as a “brotherhood” based on four principles: respect, honesty, dependability and freedom.

“There are some basic rules,” he says. “Don’t lie, don’t cheat, don’t take drugs, don’t hurt children or animals, don’t hang a brother out to dry and don’t steal a brother’s woman.”

To believe the Hells Angels, the organisation comprises urban cowboys on mechanical horses who, like the Freemasons, are a peace-loving people misunderstood by a cynical world.

There are approximately 700 Hells Angels in Germany, but no reliable figures for Berlin. The numbers keep changing because of their violent feud with the Bandidos.

Formed in Texas in 1966, the Bandidos is a much smaller organisation with about 2,400 members worldwide. A decade ago the organisation came to Germany and began recruiting Hells Angels – a move viewed as an affront in the older organisation, where membership is for life.

Since the killing of their newest member, Michael, in Berlin, the smaller gang has demonstrated just how seriously they take their motto: “God Forgives, Bandidos Don’t”.

The on-off feud between the two gangs has flared up like never before and has spread around the country. From Duisburg in the west to Leipzig in the east, police report night-time riots, shootings and all-out street battles between the two motorcycle gangs.

The violence has also spilled over into ordinary life. Last month in Berlin’s upmarket Steglitz neighbourhood, police were called to a bar that had been stormed by 12 Bandidos brandishing knives and axes, reportedly demanding protection money from the proprietor.

Most of the gang members escaped on their motorbikes but two were apprehended by police trying to flee in a Volkswagen Golf.

Police say they are unable to break the cycle of violence because the Hells Angels and Bandidos see their feud as a private matter and refuse to co-operate with the authorities.

So police look on as gang members keep switching sides and fanning the flames. On March 14th, hours after 40 Bandidos defected, their betrayed brothers attacked a Hells Angels club building in Berlin with Molotov cocktails.

Shocked, the Hells Angels declared a ceasefire – but that lasted less than 24 hours.

At 5am on March 17th, masked men showed up at the Bandidos Berlin headquarters and burned the building down with flame- throwers. Two men inside at the time reported hearing shots before they escaped to safety.

Faced with a nationwide gang war, German politicians are divided over whether to ban the gangs or try to lock up their ringleaders. Criminal investigators say any action has to go beyond the testosterone- fuelled street battles and tackle the real war: control over the drug and vice networks the gangs have built up in Germany’s major cities, hidden behind respectable fronts of property, security and drinks delivery companies.

The Hells Angels insist they are an organisation of motorbike and rock-music lovers and blame all racketeering allegations on biased police officers and excitable tabloid journalists. “If it was all about drug dealing and battles for sales areas, then where is the damn money?” asks Django.

So, if not racketeering, what lies behind the violence?

“Violence is part of human nature, like sex,” he says. “This is about material issues, often it’s about respect. And we know from history that sometimes a society has fallen over a woman.”
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Northern biker gangs banned amid deadly feud

Published: 29 Apr 10 12:27 CET

There is a nice picture online, where the police is closing down HA Flensburg chapter.
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100429-26875.html

In the wake of a bloody biker feud across Germany, the northern state of Schleswig-Holstein has outlawed chapters of the notorious Hell’s Angels and Bandido gangs, the regional government announced Thursday.

Interior Minister Klaus Schlie announced that the Flensburg chapter of the Hell’s Angels and the Neumünster chapter of the Bandidos were being banned on the grounds they were a threat to the constitutional order.

Some 300 police officers, including crack special forces commandos, raided 10 properties of gang members along with the club houses of the two chapters in Flensburg and Neumünster.

“The searches were for the purposes of investigation, seizure and recovery of the clubs’ property,” the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

The two clubs had “the essential aim of setting up criminal mastery over a specific region and to enforce the claim to power against the other club with violence using weapons,” Schlie said.

“This isn’t about harmless motorcycle clubs whose members meet peacefully on the weekends,” he said.

The image of respectable, motorcycling fathers who simply liked to ride in their spare time was a “public relations myth of these clubs,” Schlie said.

Two clubs erupted into open warfare last year after the Bandidos tried to get a foothold in Germany’s northern-most state, where nine Hells Angels clubs and crews are located.

In June, police responded to a shooting at a house in Neumünster. Four shots were fired into the living room window but no one was hurt.

The clubs were to be dismantled without delay, Schlie added.

“Any activity, or the formation of replacement organisations, is forbidden to them,” he said. “The clubs badges must no longer be used or displayed in public.”

However, he could not rule out further violence between the clubs’ members, despite the ban.

The Hells Angels were banned in Hamburg in 1986, but have continued to operate under different names, including ''Red-White,'' the club's colours, or ''Harbour City.''
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Hell's Angels ride no more in German state

The interior ministry of the north-German state Schleswig-Holstein has made membership in local chapters of the Hell's Angels and Bandidos biker gangs illegal.

Over 300 police officers raided the headquarters of the "Hell's Angels MC Charter Flensburg" und "Bandidos MC Probationary Chapter Neumuenster" on Thursday morning, as a ban against the groups came into effect.

Several apartments belonging to members of the groups were also searched to collect evidence relating to the clubs' possessions. All told, 12 members of the Flensburg Hell's Angels and 17 members of the Neumuenster Bandidos have been banned from publically belonging to their respective clubs. The clubs are considered deep rivals, and there have been several instances of violence between the two groups around Germany.

According to Klaus Schlie, interior minister of Schleswig-Holstein, both clubs are in violation of penal law and go against the constitutional order. He said the goal of the clubs is to display criminal force in a certain area and to claim territorial rights over the other club using armed violence.

"This isn't about harmless motorcycle clubs whose members meet each other for friendly trips on the weekend," Schlie said, adding that, despite the bans against the clubs, "we can't rule out the possibility of further violent conflicts."

Bloody history

In the future, police will be able to confiscate biker vests that display the respective clubs' logos and arrest any person publically displaying his allegiance to either group.

Violent confrontations between biker gangs have escalated in Schleswig-Holstein in recent months.

Earlier this week, two members of the Bandidos and one person who supported the group were arrested in connection with an attack in January. The Bandidos reportedly stabbed two members of a group of Hell's Angels supporters at a fast food restaurant.

Other chapters of the Hell's Angels still exist in towns outside Flensburg, and while the Bandidos still exist in Germany, the next local chapter is not in the state of Schleswig-Holstein.
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QUOTE (Peter @ Nov 2 2009, 08:29 AM)
Crime experts suggest ban on biker gangs

Published: 2 Nov 09 08:09 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091102-22963.html

A organization representing German police officers has called for a ban on biker gangs, following a weekend of violence between the Hells Angels and Bandidos, daily Rheinische Post reported.

“The incidences in Duisburg, Solingen and Essen specifically involve conflicts between organised crime groups that have the highest potential for violence,” acting leader of the BDK criminal investigative alliance, Wilfried Albishausen, told the daily Rheinische Posten.

“In such cases the state needs to show its colours, particularly if one affects one or another follower with the ban.”

Albishausen advocated a change to laws in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where much of the violence between the two gangs has taken place. A state parliamentary committee is set to address the issue this month.

“It must be possible for the police to conduct surveillance of telephone and data exchange when the worst crimes threaten to occur with a court ruling and not only when a crime has already occurred,” he told the paper.

Inside law enforcement sources told the paper that police plan to create a statewide special criminal commission based in Münster to handle increasing criminal activity between the two gangs.

Over the weekend up to 100 police officers were called to a pub in Duisburg to break up a fight between the rival biker gangs, meanwhile a grenade attack followed several hours later.

Around 50 Hells Angels armed with sticks stormed a red-light district bar called The Fat Mexican, which is frequented by rival biker gang the Bandidos, police reported.

The bar was smashed to pieces during the ensuing brawl and several people were injured before police managed to herd everyone outside and separate the two gangs.

News agency AP reported that several hours later someone lobbed a hand grenade through the window of the Hells Angels’ clubhouse in Solingen, where about 20 people were inside.

The grenade did not go off, and police later detonated the device in a controlled explosion.

Later shots were fired at a Hells Angels clubhouse in Solingen, but no one was injured, police said.

Fears of an outbreak of violence between the two biker gangs were sparked in October when a 32-year-old man was shot dead outside the Fat Mexican – which is on the ground floor of the Bandidos’ club building. The dead man was a Bandido, while the suspected killer is a man with connections to the Hells Angels.

typical germany and their shit gestapo tactics, they want to outlaw biker clubs, but in reality the German goverment still uses its shit nazi tactics under different names to do things, and god bless our shit news agenciey that make a mountain out of a mole hill by over publicizing this so they can sell more papers,
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05/25/2010

Hell's Angels and Bandidos Agree to a Truce

For over a year the two biker gangs have been involved in violent conflict. But on Wednesday a ceasefire will be sealed with a handshake in Hanover.

At the end of April, the biker gangs Hell's Angels and Bandidos were banned in the northern German state of Schleswig-Holstein -- a result of a rash of violent incidents between the two groups in the recent past. This month, other German states were considering following suit.

Now, though, that may no longer be necessary. The two gangs, sworn enemies who have been involved in an escalating conflict over control of various criminal activities and terrain since early 2009, said on Monday that they want to make peace.

The truce -- agreed to by the vice president of the Bandidos in Europe, Peter M. and Frank H., the president of the Hell's Angels Charters in Hanover -- will be sealed "by a handshake" on Wednesday in a lawyer's office in Hanover.

The announcement comes just in time for the biker gangs. On Thursday and Friday, interior ministers from Germany's 16 states are to meet in Hamburg, and biker-gang violence is high on the agenda. Many anticipate that the ministers will recommend pursuing a nationwide ban.

'Won't Soften Our Stance'

Both gangs, "violate the law and infringe on the constitutional order," Klaus Schlie, interior minister of Schleswig-Holstein, said at the end of April in justifying his state's ban. "We won't soften our stance one little bit."

The biker gangs said that a tentative truce had been in effect for the past eight weeks. No serious incidents have been recorded during that time. In announcements posted on their websites, the gangs wrote that, after two months' of preparation, "a path toward co-existence in the future had been found and that the conflict between the two clubs was at an official end, effective immediately." Any infringements by gang members against the truce will be punished within the gangs themselves, the announcement said.

Biker gangs have found their way into German headlines often in recent weeks for brutal attacks on each other -- often involving knives, machetes, guns and even hand grenades. "We no longer want to be constantly portrayed as criminals," Bandidos member Micha told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "It has to stop."

'Doesn't Matter'

The peace process seems a clear effort to improve that image. "The bikers seem to have recognized that they are in danger of tearing themselves apart with this continuous fighting and that they have fewer opportunities to earn money," a criminologist who has been investigating the biker scene for years told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

Police reaction to the announcement was restrained. "It does not matter to us at all, who is making peace with whom," Uwe Keller, a spokesperson from Schleswig- Holstein's State Office for Criminal Investigation, told the news agency AFP.

Police accuse the biker gangs of being involved in a wide variety of criminal activities, including organized crime in red light districts, robbery, blackmail, drug dealing, receiving stolen property and possessing unlicensed firearms.
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The presidents of HA and Bandidos in Germany makes peace.

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Kurds vs. Hells Angels
Biker War Looms in Bremen
By Jörg Diehl and Michael Fröhlingsdor

Members of a notorious Kurdish clan in Bremen have founded a new chapter of the Mongols motorcycle club and are challenging the Hells Angels in the city. The police fear a new biker war may be just around the corner.

The last movement in the life of novice motorcyclist Mustafa B. was a twist of his right hand. His red Honda Fireblade, which had a 178-horsepower engine and a top speed of 290 km/h (180 mph), accelerated with a roar and shot past the cars. Seconds later, the biker smashed into a tree. He died at the scene of the accident, a four-lane street in the northwestern German city of Bremen. A statement later issued by the police blandly stated that "no third party was to blame."

Nevertheless, investigators took a particularly close look at the victim's motorbike to check for possible sabotage. After all, 38-year-old Mustafa B., who was Kurdish, was considered a leading light in Bremen's organized crime circles. The police therefore had good reasons to suspect that some people might have had a vested interest in his demise.

Mustafa B. had challenged the Hells Angels, the legendary bikers' club. Members of the Hells Angels have long been believed to play an important role in the city's underworld. In August, Mustafa B. and almost two dozen members of his clan had founded a local chapter of the Mongols, an international motorcycle club. It was the first time in Germany that members of a Muslim immigrant clan which is believed to be involved in organized crime have been active in this area.

Investigators in Bremen now fear the move will herald the outbreak of another bloody biker war that could quickly spread to other cities. Another, no less comforting, possibility is that the Hells Angels and the Kurdish gang will join forces. "We're keeping an eye on both developments with great concern," says Bremen police detective Harald Habethal.

Bikers Without Motorbikes

One thing is certain: The immigrants are not interested in emulating an "Easy Rider"-type lifestyle. According to investigators, the new bikers have neither motorbikes nor the requisite motorcycle license. Whenever they cruise through Bremen's downtown area, they drive powerful cars. Mustafa B. was the only member of the clan who had actually gotten his license, two weeks before his untimely death. "We suspect that the members of ethnic clans are interested in developing new structures and trading channels," says Andreas Weber, the head of Bremen's State Office of Criminal Investigation. The Mongols are believed to be involved in drug dealing in the US and southern Europe. The Bremen Mongols could therefore have much to gain from cooperation with gangs elsewhere.

The Bremen police believe that the Kurdish clan already controls the city's drugs trade. The clan is part of a group of Mhallamiye Kurds who emigrated to Germany from Lebanon in the 1980s. They have made little effort to integrate into German society, and primarily live off welfare and shady businesses like drug dealing and prostitution. Most of them live in Bremen, Berlin and the western city of Essen. Police estimate that the Bremen clan has at least 2,600 members. They are already investigating about half of them. A total of 66 family members are considered to be particularly hardened criminals.

Most of the members of the Bremen Mongols chapter also have extensive police records. Ibrahim M., the man investigators believe succeeded Mustafa B. as the head of the club, has been associated with no fewer than 147 crimes, ranging from grievous bodily harm to illegal possession of a weapon.

Peace Talks

It certainly seems to be an ideal time to expand their operations. The Bremen chapter of the Hells Angels is currently relatively weak. Although they were able to drive the rival Bandidos gang out of the city four years ago, many of their members are currently on probation, and the Kurds are seen as particularly ruthless.

So it's hardly surprising that peace talks are apparently already underway. The head of the Hells Angels in Hanover, Frank Hanebuth, is said to have offered the Mongols €250,000 to join him, at least according to the leader of the Mongols in Germany, Bernhard Denzinger, who runs a club in the southwestern state of Baden-Württemberg. The Kurds apparently rejected Hanebuth's overtures, however.

Hanebuth denied having made any such offer. "We never offered anyone money," he said. "We absolutely don't need to do that."

A similar tactic by the Hells Angels proved successful in Berlin. At the start of 2010, they were able to convince a particularly brutal group of Bandidos led by a man identified as Kadir P. to leave the club. The Hells Angels incorporated the defectors into their club. Now they call themselves the Hells Angels Nomads Turkiye.

Overdoing Things

The police in Bremen want to take a tough stance against the bikers. Weber says criminals will be prosecuted quicker and the clubs may possibly be banned. Mongols chief Bernhard Denzinger also says he won't allow criminal elements to endanger his club, although he admits that some of the new members "overdid things a bit" in the past. He is also demanding that all his members get a motorcycle license by early May at the latest.

As such, it may not be the police who put an end to the club's activities, but the department of transportation.

Translated from the German by Jan Liebelt
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It looks like the Mongols with their willingness to grant chapters to anyone who hates the Hells Angels will become the next member of the big three OMG's.
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Hells Angel jailed over police shooting

Published: 28 Feb 11 11:47 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110228-33399.html

A member of the Hells Angels biker gang was sentenced to nine years in prison by a Koblenz court Monday for killing a police officer.

The district court in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate declared the 44-year-old from Anhausen guilty of manslaughter, coercion, and attempted extortion.

On March 17, 2010 the man fired two shots through the closed door of his home, hitting a 42-year-old police officer, who was killed.

The member of the special police force had been trying to open the door to conduct a search with another colleague as part of a larger investigation of the Westerwald region’s red light milieu.

The coercion and attempted extortion charges against the defendant came in connection with this investigation.

During the trial the defendant admitted to shooting through the door, but maintained he did not know a police officer was on the other side. Instead he believed he was being threatened by member of rival biker gang the Bandidos, he said.

This claim prompted state prosecutors to downgrade their original charge of murder to manslaughter, bringing the maximum sentence down to nine years from 12.

The defence plead for the biker to be pardoned because he acted in self-defence and was the result of a “chain of unhappy circumstances.”

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