Carl's prison boast

March 01, 2009 12:00am

CARL Williams has cut kilograms from his waistline and expects to have years cut off his sentence.

A source close to the jailed four-time killer and drug kingpin said Williams hoped up to 15 years would be slashed from his sentence.

And prison officials say the once portly criminal has shed more than 20kg since his incarceration in a maximum security cell at Barwon jail in May 2007.

Senior police have said there is no deal or offer on the table for Williams in relation to his sentence.

"It's just something we don't do," a member of Victoria Police top brass said.

But the killer is said to believe he will get a substantial sentence cut when he appeals against his 35-year jail term, which expires at the earliest in 2042.

Williams has been granted an appeal this year against his jail term for the gangland murders of Mark Mallia and Jason and Lewis Moran.

Carl Williams and his father George - also in Barwon jail - were released for a coastal sojourn over Christmas as a summer sweetener.

And contrary to denials from Victoria Police and the Justice Department, insiders say Williams was allowed conjugal visits with a female companion during the sojourn.

They also say the convicted killer has dropped 20kg - the equivalent of a bag of concrete - to earn the respect of fellow inmates.

Williams was 110kg when he entered the prison, but is now about 90kg, insiders say.

"Body image is huge in jail, especially in that unit. It sets you up for where you are going to be in the pecking order," a source said.

"He's dropped at least 20kg from what he was before he went in. He looks heaps fitter."

"All the guys in here have arm muscles out of proportion with the rest of their body."

Williams was a polite prisoner who said "please" and "thank you" to jail staff, the source said.

Williams has been using the limited gym facilities in his maximum security unit. He is allowed to leave his cell between 7am and 3.30pm each day to work out in a small exercise yard.

Williams is still sharing the tightly controlled Melaleuca unit of Barwon jail with his sick father, George.

Prosecutors previously assured Williams they would recommend a non-custodial sentence for his father in return for a plea of guilty.

does anybody think he will get his sentence reduced?

Yes. The fact that he's been convicted of 4 murders pales into insignificance when you consider he's lost 20 kgs. Infact his sentence should be reduced according to the following formula: 1 kg lost earns 1 year sentence reduction

p.s. If he thinks he's going to get even a week's reduction he's living on another planet. The length of his sentence seems to be hitting home. 31 years to go Carl

My understanding is that Tuppence Moran left the underworld behind some years ago but someone doesn't seem to like him much. Or his mate maybe?

http://www.theage.com.au/national/attempt-...90317-914d.html

Attempt to kill last of the Morans

The last man standing in Melbourne's notorious Moran clan - Des "Tuppence" Moran - has described a cowardly shooting that came millimetres from claiming his mate's life in a gangland-style attack last night.

A balaclava-clad person fired a single shot into Mr Moran's Mercedes coupe in the driveway of the the Moran family home in Langs Road, Ascot Vale about 8.50pm. Mr Moran, 60, and his friend were about to drive away when the shooter struck. The bullet passed through the double-glazed windscreen and lodged in the steering wheel.

No one was injured in the attack.

"There should be a bullet in my chest. It went through the steering wheel," he told The Age.

"I saw a bloke with a hood on and he's dressed in black, come flying around here and he goes 'bang'.

"I was in the passenger side, and I thought, I'm f.... ing dead here."

Mr Moran, brother of Lewis Moran, and uncle to Mark and Jason Moran - all shot dead in Melbourne's underworld war with Carl Williams - said he did not believe the shooting was another attempted gangland hit.

"If I did, I would be a bit worried but I don't think it is,'' he said. "I don't think I've got any enemies. As a matter of fact I think people like me. Most people do like me.

"I'm not scared one bit. Anyone who did it like that is a coward. If he'd been fair dinkum, he would have fired five or six shots, wouldn't he?

"He's done it and he hasn't done a good job ... I was more worried about the bloke driving the car than myself.

"I wouldn't like it to happen again. I wish I had something to attack him with, 'cause he wouldn't have walked away.''

Police said the shooter had left on foot. The dog squad and forensics investigators were called in.

Earlier, Mr Moran, clutching a can of beer, emerged from his house to tell photographers to go away. "Leave the house alone," he said. "I'm sick of it (the attention). The car's been shot. I'm all right. The Purana (gangland) squad are on their way."

Des Moran's sister-in-law, Judy Moran, was devastated to hear that another member of her extended family had come under attack. "I've got nothing to say. I'm in shock," she told The Age.

The Moran family was almost wiped out in the underworld war. Judy's son Mark Moran was gunned down outside his Aberfeldie home in 2000. Her son Jason was shot dead in front of his children at an Auskick football clinic in Essendon in 2003. And her husband Lewis was shot dead by Evangelos Goussis at the Brunswick Club in 2004.

Williams, who is serving a life sentence, pleaded guilty to the murders of Jason and Lewis. In exchange, a murder charge over Mark was dropped.

Des was found guilty in 1987 of running a mobile drugs factory near Bendigo. But he said in a 2007 interview that he had not been in trouble since 1985.

"I am the last man alive in the Moran family," he said in the interview. Asked about threats by Williams to kill the entire Moran family, he said: "I might have been scared at times, but I never let that stop me from going where I wanted to go. No one has come near me."

Roberta Williams started gangland war, Desmond Moran says
By Aaron Langmaid | March 19, 2009

Moran speaks out about gangster war
Blames his dead nephews
Points finger at Roberta Williams

Family feud ... Desmond Moran says Robert Williams ignited a deadly gangland war. Picture: Nicki Connolly.

THE only surviving member of the Moran family has blamed his dead nephews for starting a bloody gangland war, the Herald Sun reports.

Desmond "Tuppence" Moran, who cheated death when a gunman tried to shoot him outside his house on Tuesday night, said Jason Moran and his half-brother Mark provoked Carl Williams when they shot him in the stomach at a suburban park in 1999.

And he revealed the Morans' decision to declare war on Williams was ignited by Roberta Williams and an alleged affair - not drugs as widely believed.

Mr Moran's comments, just hours after a masked gunman tried to kill him, mark the first time a member from either side of Melbourne's underworld war has taken responsibility for the trail of violence that led to 28 deaths.

Speaking while he nursed a beer in the kitchen of his Ascot Vale house, Mr Moran spoke of his life since his closest family members were gunned down.

His brother Lewis was shot dead at the Brunswick Club in 2004. Nephew Jason died in a hail of gunfire at a junior football clinic a year earlier. And in 2000, Mark was killed outside his Aberfeldie home.

Mr Moran said everything started after the brothers assaulted Carl Williams in a dispute over a pill press.

"I blame Mark and Jason more so than Carl, because they went and bashed and shot him for no good reason," he said. "If they had copped the situation on the chin and hadn't resorted to that sort of violence, we might not have seen everything spiral out of control the way it did."

Mr Moran said the deadly feud between the Carlton Crew, including the Morans, and Carl Williams was never initially about drugs, but was instead sparked by Roberta Williams and an alleged affair.

But he would not elaborate.

He also said his relationship with gangland matriarch Judy Moran had soured since his brother's murder.

He said he hadn't spoken to her for years.

"She was a good mother. And she was a good cook . . . but it was her tongue that was most dangerous," he said.

Mr Moran said despite the violent deaths and Tuesday's attempted hit, he didn't feel vulnerable.

"It seems like everybody is allowed to take pot shots at the Morans," he said.

"I just don't know why they'd want to do it to me.

"If he had've been fair dinkum he would have fired five or six shots. He wasn't real professional."

Mr Moran said he knew of no motive for the attack: "I don't know what happened here tonight. I really don't. But it's got nothing to do with the gangland war.

"I really don't think this has anything to do with what has happened in the past.

"I don't think I have any enemies. Matter of fact, I think people like me."

I've read somewhere that Roberta Williams had a brief affair wit Mark Moran. Maybe this is what Des is referring to?

As for the other bits, he's right. The Morans started it and Carl Williams finished it as far as the Morans were concerned

at least he is being honest about the whole thing unlike judy moran the old witch who states as always that her boys did no wrong



http://player.video.news.com.au/heraldsun/...i81r_jpZzPHXc80

Wendy Peirce.......nutter[I]

Wendy Peirce charged over meat cleaver attack at Port Melbourne

UPDATE 5.14pm: POLICE have charged gangland widow Wendy Peirce over a meat cleaver attack on a man at a Port Melbourne hotel.
Ms Peirce, 52, was charged with attempted murder and intentionally causing serious injury at Melbourne Magistrates Court today.

The charges relate to an attack on 44-year-old Mark Lohse, who was on his way to the bar at a hotel in Port Melbourne at about 4.50pm on March 28 when he was allegedly set upon.

He sustained life-threatening injuries in the attack.

Magistrate Susan Wakeling ordered Ms Peirce be seen by a doctor after the court heard she was taking medication for depression.

Ms Peirce did not apply for bail and was remanded in custody until June 30 for a committal mention.

Detectives from South Melbourne CIU arrested Ms Peirce – whose husband Victor was shot dead in 2002 – about 1pm today.

Detectives had already arrested two people, a man and a woman, in relation to the attack. Both remain in custody

what a crazy twisted tramp

Her 23 year old daugher has also been charged with atempted murder. So much for her wanting to lead a normal life. Reports are also suggesting it could have been a case of mistake identity

CARL Williams' glamorous blonde ex-girlfriend appears to have turned her back on the convicted killer, marrying her long-time boyfriend.

While the baby-faced Williams languishes in Barwon Prison, Renata Laureano, the 23-year-old he once boasted about, has moved on and started a new life.

Pictures of Ms Laureano-Lovett's wedding in Melbourne's Fitzroy Gardens show the bride hugging and kissing her husband Trav Lovett.

News of the wedding sparked a bitter outburst from Williams' ex-wife Roberta, who said she thought Ms Laureano had used her husband's court case to latch on to his notoriety.

But the tasteful wedding snaps, which have been posted on a public Facebook site, show a happy and contented bride.

Before the ceremony, Ms Laureano was pictured relaxing with her three bridesmaids at the family's Reservoir home.

Ms Laureano was dressed in a sparkly floor-length gown with a long veil, strappy heels and her hair swept back.

Her father poured champagne for the bridal party as they struck cheeky poses for the camera.

The bridesmaids, wearing black halter-neck gowns, crowded on to the family sofa for photos before picking up their bouquets of red roses and heading outside.

Photos of three black 1960s open-top Mustangs taking the bridal party to the ceremony are captioned with tongue-in-cheek comments describing Ms Laureano's father as an underworld character.

At the gardens, the groom - smartly dressed in a dark suit with a red rose corsage - watched his bride walk down the aisle of red carpet and rose petals to the sounds of a string quartet.

Once the vows were over the high-spirited wedding party made its way to the reception at The Chapter House at St Paul's Cathedral.

The newlyweds were seen kissing and whispering in each other's ear as they moved on to the dance floor for their first dance.

After dinner the couple cut their three-tier chocolate cake, before Ms Laureano perched on a chair and hitched up her skirt for the groom to slip off her garter.

As the celebration, held in late February, wore on, the bride and groom were pictured partying late into the night.

During Carl Williams' court appearances before he received a minimum 35-year jail sentence after pleading guilty to three murders, including the killing of Jason Moran, Ms Laureano came under intense scrutiny for her friendship with the killer 15 years her senior.

Williams taunted his ex-wife Roberta with letters from his jail cell describing his affection for the chic blonde.

He wrote: "I can still pull 'em even when I'm in jail", and speculated on having an IVF child with Ms Laureano.

Ms Laureano copped Roberta's wrath outside court.

Roberta screamed: "Don't go near my daughter, you trashy piece of f---ing carnage" after receiving the provocative letters from Carl.

Yesterday Roberta claimed Ms Laureano had dropped Carl a few weeks into his jail term and "he didn't want nothing to do with her".

"She just wanted the glamour and the hype at court, she wanted to get a modelling contract and when it didn't come she just went," she claimed.

"She's really thought she was going to get something out of it."

Roberta said unlike her, Ms Laureano had not seen Carl since the first few weeks of his sentenc

I honestly still have no idea what this bird was doing at Williams' court cases or what the hell she wanted from it all. To get her head on tv I assume. Either way, what a dozy cow (with big tits)

awesome rack hey

hehe

CARL UNLUCKY IN LOVE



CARL Williams has told friends of his heartbreak after splitting with a secret love he had hoped to marry.

The jailed gangland figure has told friends he became briefly engaged to a hairdresser from the western suburbs, who was 20 when she started writing to him.

Prison sources said Stacey Vella, from Melbourne's outer west, had been visiting Williams.

But the visits had stopped since the break-up, the sources said.

During their romance, Williams had a man's ring with nine 1.5-carat diamonds resized and given to the woman as an engagement ring, friends said.

Vella wrote him letters signed "Stacey Williams" and sent him raunchy photographs.

A Valentine's Day letter obtained by the Sunday Herald Sun reads: "Dear Carl, hello their (sic) my handsome beautiful fiance, how are you hunni?

"Hunni I miss you so so much oh my god I can't believe how much you got me babe you got me good babe and thats (sic) an understatement."

But the prison romance fell apart when Williams allegedly discovered his would-be bride had become romantically involved with a Melbourne boxer.

"Carl's now a shattered man. He hates the fact that he let her in and she let him down," a friend said.

"He thinks her seeing other people is understandable (because) he's locked up, but hates that she has now dropped all contact after they were so close."

Ms Vella refused to comment, claiming only that she had no contact with Williams.

But her mother admitted the photos were of her daughter and blamed him for the relationship.

"Carl Williams hooks these kids in to pass his time, then he chases them," Ms Vella's mother said.

"I'm not saying she doesn't know Carl Williams."

The woman's first letter to Williams said: "Hello how are you going? Listen you don't know me, or at least I don't think you do, anyway my name is Stacey.

"I'm from the western suburbs. I'm a hairdresser.

"Well anyway this is weird enough as it is, so I'll leave it to you but feel free to write back, or just tell me to p--- off. But I do look forward to hearing from you (just for the record I'm 20, not 10 or anything and I think you're sexy) take care, would be good to get to know you more. Stacey xx."

Ms Vella first wrote to the Barwon prisoner more than two years ago and friends of Williams said the relationship intensified from there.

Raunchy photographs of Ms Vella taken at a glamour studio were sent to Williams.

In one, she wore little but a man's white shirt - which friends said belonged to Williams - with a ring prominent on her wedding finger.

Friends claimed the unlikely lovebirds even shared an amorous liaison in Barwon Prison's visitor room.

They said Williams had been depressed since the pair broke up, with the end of the engagement putting him off his exercise.

Williams has dropped up to 20kg while behind bars, thanks to prison food and a vigorous exercise regime.

"He feels like she and those she was with were laughing at him behind his back," a friend said.

"He still can't believe it."

Acquaintances said Ms Vella was obsessed with gangster dramas such as Underbelly and The Sopranos.

Her father said: "She got sucked in because of f---ing idiots like that.

"The books they brought out she read.

"That's how people get brainwashed."

But he denied the ring indicated his daughter and Williams had been engaged.

"If you give a friend a ring, that means you're engaged?" he said.

"If I give you a ring, are we engaged?"

Williams, a quadruple gangland killer, is in the highest-security unit of Barwon Prison in Lara.

His father, George, said his son was doing it tough inside because of the recent death of his mother, his father being paroled from the jail and his recent woman troubles.

Since separating from former wife Roberta, Williams has been linked to several blondes including Renata Laureano and Nicole Mottram.

Stacey Vella[SIZE=14]

CARL WILLIAMS: DEAD

Man questioned over Carl Williams death

16:00 AEST Mon Apr 19 2010
By ninemsn staff with AAP



Police are questioning an inmate at Barwon Prison over the bashing death of Melbourne gangland killer Carl Williams.

Williams, 39, died after suffering head injuries before going into cardiac arrest at Barwon Prison, outside Geelong, his lawyer Rob Stary confirmed.

Victoria Police confirmed the death in a statement, and said that they had detained a man for questioning.

"Police believe an altercation occurred between Williams and another inmate about 12.50pm with Williams suffering head injuries after allegedly being struck about the head," the statement read.

"A man is in custody and will be spoken to by police as part of the ongoing investigation."

An Ambulance Victoria spokesperson said paramedics arrived at the high security prison about 1.20pm and found a man in a critical condition.

Williams was housed in solitary confinement at the prison's Acacia Unit.

He was only permitted around other inmates during supervised exercise, Mr Stary said.

Underworld figure Mick Gatto said he had heard unconfirmed rumours about Williams having died but said that was all he had heard.

"I would rather let dead dogs lie," he told AAP.

"If you hear any more let me know but I would rather not comment on him."

He said Williams was "certainly not" a friend.

Williams was serving 35 years for the murders of four gangland rivals during Melbourne's underworld war.

He was found guilty of killing Jason Moran, Lewis Moran, Mark Mallia and Michael Marshall as well as conspiring to murder Mario Condello.

He had one child, a daughter, with his ex-wife Roberta Williams, a convicted drug trafficker.

He divorced from Roberta after being jailed.

Williams' father George was released from prison in June 2009 after serving a sentence for drug trafficking, while his mother Barbara was found dead in November 2008 after an apparent overdose.

Williams became a deadly player in the infamous Melbourne criminal scene after he was shot in stomach by Jason Moran over a drug-related debt in October 1999.

He survived the attack but became involved in a bitter and bloody feud with the Moran family and their associates.

He came to be nicknamed the "baby-faced killer".

Williams was in the news headlines today after reports Victorian police had been paying for his daughter to attend a prestigious private school in Melbourne.

Williams had been upset this morning over the Herald Sun report, his lawyer said.

"Of course he was (upset),'' Mr Stary told AAP, who said he had spoken with Williams about 9am.

"It exposes his daughter to risk. Of course he was concerned about that. He was not concerned about his own wellbeing, he was concerned about her.

"I just hope that justice prevails.''



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Murdered by a trusted ally.

Someone has been charged, but for legal reasons he cannot be named. I wonder who it was?

The other guy there was Tomas Ivanovic. Not sure of the murderer though

The Funeral of Carl Williams

It looks like Carl had decided to talk to the cops about police corruption in return for whatever (either way, he was not going to be released until he was at least 70)

The fact he was chatting to the cops got around and he became a bit worried. He told his 2 companions in prison about it, in the hope it didn't get out of hand. Apparently his eventual murderer Matthew Johnson was ok with it for a while. I have no idea what changed but obviously something did. Or maybe Johnson is simply a complete nutcase

Seconds from death: Chilling image shows prison hitman creeping up on inmate before he murders him with iron bar
By Richard Shears, Daily Mail, 8th September 2011

Carl Williams, seconds from death:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...d-iron-bar.html

Australian slain mobster Carl Williams 'was informant'
BBC News, September 8, 2011

Notorious Australian gangster Carl Williams was offering information to the police in the weeks before he was beaten to death in his jail cell, the trial of his alleged killer has heard.

A lawyer who handled Williams' talks with the police said the gangster was preparing to provide the names of some of his underworld associates.

The lawyer said Williams had become worried about his safety in prison.

His former cellmate Matthew Charles Johnson, 38, denies murder.

Johnson has admitted killing Williams, but said it was self-defence, adding that he was in a "kill or be killed situation".

At the time, police feared the killing could spark another gangland war in Melbourne's criminal underworld.

Williams was already serving a 35-year jail term for murdering three of his rivals when he was killed in April 2010.

On the third day of Johnson's murder trial, Williams' former lawyer told the court that the gangster had been ready to tell police the names of other people involved in those murders.

Shane Tyrrell said Williams had hoped to get his sentence reduced, as well as having his daughter's school fees paid, in return for the information.

However, Mr Tyrrell said his client had become uneasy because prison staff had known about his talks with the police.

On Wednesday, Williams' father George had told the jury that Johnson had killed his son because he wanted to benefit from the police deal.

George Williams, himself a convicted drug trafficker, said Johnson had asked his son: "Can you get me on board?"

Williams was one of Australia's most infamous gangland bosses before he was jailed.

His life of crime and the gangland warfare it engendered in Melbourne was the inspiration for the TV series Underbelly.

The trial continues.