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HombreSabio
Posted: Aug 20 2010, 12:53 PM


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Posted: Aug 20 2010, 01:16 PM


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I don't think I have the energy to type how dumb I think that mosque issue is. It's just a damn distraction (yet another one) away from important issues! rolleyes.gif
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Posted: Aug 20 2010, 01:38 PM


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Anything that has something to do with fear mongering automatically goes on my shit list. But still, I have to wonder why there of all places?


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Posted: Aug 20 2010, 01:42 PM


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Probably for the same reason why a "gentlemen's club" is in the same area. People living there will attend.
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Posted: Aug 20 2010, 04:35 PM


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All I have to say is that I'm disappointed in the way these people are acting . They portray Americans in a negative light and should be ashamed of their behavior . We live in America where people are supposed to be able to practice their religion freely and without fear of oppression, even religions we don't like or agree with; the people who try to deny that right to others are as bad as the Islamic Fascists that they are so afraid of .

Since this post was serious which is out of character for me here is a picture of Kurt Angle in a cowboy hat to balance things out .

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Posted: Aug 21 2010, 10:58 AM


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Posted: Aug 21 2010, 01:04 PM


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They wanted to argue that making a mosque there would be against respecting those who died there. That to me is one of the dumbest reasons to keep it out. I am actually FOR the mosque. Most of my family are against it though because of who took out the WTC.


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Posted: Aug 21 2010, 01:30 PM


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People need to realize there are extremists in every religion. Those are the ones that cause the problems. Muslims didn't cause 9-11, terrorists did. They just share the same religion. They aren't gonna bring back the ones that died or even make this whole thing go away by discriminating.
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Posted: Aug 22 2010, 04:31 PM


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Since a lot of Christians killed Americans in the Civil War, I think it is sacrilegious to build any sort of Christian Church in this county. I find it offensive to those that were killed.
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Posted: Aug 22 2010, 06:16 PM


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QUOTE (Fantome @ Aug 20 2010, 02:38 PM)
Anything that has something to do with fear mongering automatically goes on my shit list. But still, I have to wonder why there of all places?

Because they own the building?


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Posted: Aug 22 2010, 06:23 PM


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Oh and for my opinion:

Since no one has built anything actually on Ground Zero, I say build it on Ground Zero. These are moderate muslims who are hated by the extremists and they are trying to show that Islam is NOT a religion of hate yet christians are showing that they are no different than Al Qaeda. Sorry but I say let these good people do whatever they want. Hell even Dubya LOOKED for these people to show that America is not trying to fight muslims yet stupid racist rednecks and christians are coming up with stupid reasons to block the construction.


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Posted: Aug 22 2010, 06:49 PM


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QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 22 2010, 10:23 PM)
Since no one has built anything actually on Ground Zero.....

Except, ya know, for that whole Freedom Tower thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center


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Posted: Aug 22 2010, 09:08 PM


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QUOTE (Saiyu @ Aug 22 2010, 06:49 PM)
QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 22 2010, 10:23 PM)
Since no one has built anything actually on Ground Zero.....

Except, ya know, for that whole Freedom Tower thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center

and here I just thought that was a myth.


I support building that mosque on Ground Zero, it would be such massive lulz.
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odanobunaga
Posted: Aug 23 2010, 06:58 AM


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QUOTE (Saiyu @ Aug 22 2010, 07:49 PM)
QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 22 2010, 10:23 PM)
Since no one has built anything actually on Ground Zero.....

Except, ya know, for that whole Freedom Tower thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center

Except it's nowhere near finished after 9 FUCKING YEARS. I'm sorry, the fact it has taken them this long shows they don't really give a rat's ass about remembering the victims of that attack.


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Posted: Aug 23 2010, 06:58 AM


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QUOTE (Ice_Tyrant @ Aug 22 2010, 10:08 PM)
QUOTE (Saiyu @ Aug 22 2010, 06:49 PM)
QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 22 2010, 10:23 PM)
Since no one has built anything actually on Ground Zero.....

Except, ya know, for that whole Freedom Tower thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center

and here I just thought that was a myth.


I support building that mosque on Ground Zero, it would be such massive lulz.

I support Al Qaeda building an extremist mosque there just for even more lolz.


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Posted: Aug 23 2010, 09:06 AM


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QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 23 2010, 10:58 AM)
QUOTE (Saiyu @ Aug 22 2010, 07:49 PM)
QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 22 2010, 10:23 PM)
Since no one has built anything actually on Ground Zero.....

Except, ya know, for that whole Freedom Tower thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center

Except it's nowhere near finished after 9 FUCKING YEARS. I'm sorry, the fact it has taken them this long shows they don't really give a rat's ass about remembering the victims of that attack.

Except, ya know, building started in 2006, after the cornerstone was layed in 2004.


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Posted: Aug 23 2010, 12:59 PM


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Hey lets see where this thread is going .
QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 23 2010, 06:58 AM)
I support Al Qaeda building an extremist mosque there just for even more lolz.

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Well it was fun while it lasted .

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HombreSabio
Posted: Aug 30 2010, 01:33 PM


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Well, I guess everyone has said what they're going to say, so I'll get to it now.

QUOTE (Fantome @ Aug 20 2010, 04:38 PM)
Anything that has something to do with fear mongering automatically goes on my shit list. But still, I have to wonder why there of all places?

Because it's currently an abandoned Burlington Coat Factory building. So they've got an empty building, in the heart of a city that they feel they can put to good use.

Let's clarify a few things about this.

1) It's not a Mosque. It's a community center open to the public. It will include a gymnasium, a swimming pool, a basketball court and it just so happens to also house a Mosque somewhere inside the building. However, as the Cracked writer put it:

"Yes there will be a prayer space inside it as well, but you don’t call St. Mary’s Hospital a church because it happens to have a chapel inside it, do you?"

2) It's not actually at Ground Zero. It's 2 blocks away. And there is a Mosque 4 blocks away from Ground Zero currently. So, anyone wondering why they can't build this Community Center farther away apparently only wants them to move 2 more blocks?

QUOTE (Scarlet Witch)
Probably for the same reason why a "gentlemen's club" is in the same area. People living there will attend.

Bingo. With both a strip club and a Hooters in the area, people claiming the area is "hallowed ground" are obviously full of shit. Though, I might be in the camp that considers boobs to be "works of God"....

QUOTE (Captain_Marvel)
All I have to say is that I'm disappointed in the way these people are acting . They portray Americans in a negative light and should be ashamed of their behavior . We live in America where people are supposed to be able to practice their religion freely and without fear of oppression, even religions we don't like or agree with; the people who try to deny that right to others are as bad as the Islamic Fascists that they are so afraid of .


Win. These people are hypocrites. These are the same people that hold rallies claiming the government is taking away their rights and over-stepping their bounds, but they're trying to persecute and remove the very first right guaranteed by the Constitution to these people for bullshit reasons.

QUOTE (Ceielo)
They wanted to argue that making a mosque there would be against respecting those who died there. That to me is one of the dumbest reasons to keep it out. I am actually FOR the mosque. Most of my family are against it though because of who took out the WTC.

Tell your family
Muslims =/= terrorists.

QUOTE (Scarlet Witch)
People need to realize there are extremists in every religion. Those are the ones that cause the problems. Muslims didn't cause 9-11, terrorists did. They just share the same religion. They aren't gonna bring back the ones that died or even make this whole thing go away by discriminating.

Exactly. Muslims as a whole are no more to blame for 9-11 than Christians as a whole are to blame for the bombing of abortion clinics.
It'd be like looking at Westboro Baptists and assuming that's how all people who believe in the Bible act. They're just the fringe crazies.

QUOTE (Ice_Tyrant)
Since a lot of Christians killed Americans in the Civil War, I think it is sacrilegious to build any sort of Christian Church in this county. I find it offensive to those that were killed.

Since a lot of Americans died at the hands of the British in the Revolutionary War, I think it's insensitive to speak with a British accent in America.

QUOTE (odanobunaga)
Since no one has built anything actually on Ground Zero, I say build it on Ground Zero. These are moderate muslims who are hated by the extremists and they are trying to show that Islam is NOT a religion of hate yet christians are showing that they are no different than Al Qaeda. Sorry but I say let these good people do whatever they want. Hell even Dubya LOOKED for these people to show that America is not trying to fight muslims yet stupid racist rednecks and christians are coming up with stupid reasons to block the construction.

Aside from the incorrect inference that the Community Center is being built on Ground Zero (as pointed out previously, it's 2 blocks away), I agree with this.

QUOTE (Saiyu)
Except, ya know, for that whole Freedom Tower thing

I knew they were planning that, but I actually wasn't even aware that construction had started on it. I thought they were still just digging, since earlier this year they dug up an old wooden ship at the site.

QUOTE (odanobunaga)
I support Al Qaeda building an extremist mosque there just for even more lolz.


And now you've lost me again.


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Posted: Aug 30 2010, 01:45 PM


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It would not surprise me at all if the followers of the Westboro Baptist Church killed a bunch of people. Even the looks on their faces show that no one is home upstairs.
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Posted: Aug 30 2010, 04:42 PM


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Hombre:

I never said it was being built on ground zero. Read my post carefully: I said Since nothing has been built on ground zero after all these years, let's build this thing right ON ground zero just to piss off those idiots even more.


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Posted: Aug 30 2010, 06:08 PM


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QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Aug 30 2010, 07:42 PM)
Hombre:

I never said it was being built on ground zero. Read my post carefully: I said Since nothing has been built on ground zero after all these years, let's build this thing right ON ground zero just to piss off those idiots even more.

Your post can be read 2 ways. And unlike most circumstances, no amount of punctuation can alleviate the confusion in reading that statement.

Either way:
1) It's not on Ground Zero
2) I don't think anything aside from the proposed "Freedom Tower" (which is a stupid name) structure should be built on Ground Zero


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Posted: Aug 30 2010, 06:32 PM


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QUOTE (HombreSabio @ Aug 30 2010, 10:08 PM)
2) I don't think anything aside from the proposed "Freedom Tower" (which is a stupid name) structure should be built on Ground Zero

Well, it's actually known by "One World Trade Center". Which sounds about as stupid, really.


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QUOTE (Saiyu @ Aug 30 2010, 06:32 PM)
QUOTE (HombreSabio @ Aug 30 2010, 10:08 PM)
2) I don't think anything aside from the proposed "Freedom Tower" (which is a stupid name) structure should be built on Ground Zero

Well, it's actually known by "One World Trade Center". Which sounds about as stupid, really.

How long until the rapture idiots decide its related the supposed new world order?


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They should just name it World Trade Center which it was before it was attacked. But is it one big tower instead of two now?


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I'm pretty sure it's only one tower.
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