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 Rage against teh machines
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xplayman!
  Posted: Nov 18 2006, 11:51 AM


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Apparently sparked by the PlayStation 3 launch, conservative pundit Bill O’Reilly took off after video game culture and digital technology generally in yesterday’s Radio Factor.

The controversial talk show host, who advertises his program as a “no spin zone” offered the following spin on gamers and much of their favorite gear:

   
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American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…

    Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine. Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality…


Here comes the PS3 rant:

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The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff… It’s the newest state of the art system from Sony…. It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks.  Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!


Next, O’Reilly recounts some of the various, well-publicized incidents that took place on PS3 lines around the country, before launching into:

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The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively… but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country.


At about this point, O’Reilly has Blois Olson of the National Institute on Media & the Family on as a guest. Olson talked about some issues regarding video game addiction, but was quite reasonable. As for O’Reilly? He thinks your video gaming may well doom you to a life of poverty:

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The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that….  Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines…..  you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail.


And, even though O’Reilly’s pay site offers a podcast, the pundit rather curiously disses the iPod and seems to equate video gaming with national collapse:

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I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life  - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.



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Posted: Nov 18 2006, 11:58 AM


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That last comment was out of nowhere...


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Posted: Nov 18 2006, 01:27 PM


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QUOTE (xplayman! @ Nov 18 2006, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Bill O'Reilly)
I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life  - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.

Why yes, yes I have. And yes, yes I can.


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Posted: Nov 18 2006, 04:52 PM


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Why does Bill O'Rly (yes, I know I said O'Rly instead of O'Reilly) consider himself an idependent when most of his crap is actually conservatism talk?


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Silent_One89
Posted: Nov 19 2006, 07:56 AM


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QUOTE (Saiyu @ Nov 18 2006, 07:23 PM)
QUOTE (xplayman! @ Nov 18 2006, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Bill O'Reilly)
I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life  - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.

Why yes, yes I have. And yes, yes I can.

I can easily talk to people who play video games as well. It is easy, as I said, but then I know what they are talking about wink.gif.

The people I have a crapload of problems in talking to are those who talk about math, science, and crap like that. You know who they are. Those major book nerds who you always ask questions about the homework in whatever math class you have, and they have the answers and how they can do it in several different ways. Ugh... I have a couple friends like that and I just can't stand near them when they start talking about formulas and stuff.

So yeah... I think "smart people" are worse to talk to then video game geeks, unless those geeks are so obsessed with the games (because then they kinda make it there whole life and it is hard to talk to them due to their fanaticism with whatever game they are addicted to).


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Posted: Nov 19 2006, 08:13 AM


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Bill O'fucktard is an idiot. Like anyone else, when a medium, celebrity, or source of entertainment gains a certain level of populairty it MUST be blamed for all the evils of the world, and be put to death with bad press from retards who have nothing else to do than sit around and think up a pile of garbage like this and say it over the radio.

I could so dominate him, and any other big shot media personality to holy hell in any debate about anything. Why? Cause I know tha facts about things, not shit I'm pulling out of my ass to make excuses for the problems in the world.


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Posted: Nov 19 2006, 09:31 AM


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QUOTE (Silent_One89 @ Nov 19 2006, 08:56 AM)
QUOTE (Saiyu @ Nov 18 2006, 07:23 PM)
QUOTE (xplayman! @ Nov 18 2006, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Bill O'Reilly)
I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life  - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.

Why yes, yes I have. And yes, yes I can.

I can easily talk to people who play video games as well. It is easy, as I said, but then I know what they are talking about wink.gif.

The people I have a crapload of problems in talking to are those who talk about math, science, and crap like that. You know who they are. Those major book nerds who you always ask questions about the homework in whatever math class you have, and they have the answers and how they can do it in several different ways. Ugh... I have a couple friends like that and I just can't stand near them when they start talking about formulas and stuff.

So yeah... I think "smart people" are worse to talk to then video game geeks, unless those geeks are so obsessed with the games (because then they kinda make it there whole life and it is hard to talk to them due to their fanaticism with whatever game they are addicted to).

Then I should warn you to never have a conversation about language and language development with me. I'd be lumped in with "smart people" as you describe them.

Really, there is nothing "smart" about us. We jsut enjoy studying and want to be helpful to others who dont know. Our only goal is to try to teach something to someone; to share our knowledge and hope someone gains an interest in something new.


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Posted: Nov 19 2006, 10:03 AM


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QUOTE (lastelite @ Nov 18 2006, 06:52 PM)
Why does Bill O'Rly (yes, I know I said O'Rly instead of O'Reilly) consider himself an idependent when most of his crap is actually conservatism talk?

O'Reilly is about as independent as I am black. dry.gif


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Posted: Nov 19 2006, 10:28 AM


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QUOTE (HombreSabio @ Nov 19 2006, 11:03 AM)
QUOTE (lastelite @ Nov 18 2006, 06:52 PM)
Why does Bill O'Rly (yes, I know I said O'Rly instead of O'Reilly) consider himself an idependent when most of his crap is actually conservatism talk?

O'Reilly is about as independent as I am black. dry.gif

But he's as conservative as I am perverted blink.gif


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Posted: Nov 19 2006, 12:41 PM


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QUOTE (odanobunaga @ Nov 19 2006, 12:31 PM)
QUOTE (Silent_One89 @ Nov 19 2006, 08:56 AM)
QUOTE (Saiyu @ Nov 18 2006, 07:23 PM)
QUOTE (xplayman! @ Nov 18 2006, 02:51 PM)
QUOTE (Bill O'Reilly)
I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life  - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.

Why yes, yes I have. And yes, yes I can.

I can easily talk to people who play video games as well. It is easy, as I said, but then I know what they are talking about wink.gif.

The people I have a crapload of problems in talking to are those who talk about math, science, and crap like that. You know who they are. Those major book nerds who you always ask questions about the homework in whatever math class you have, and they have the answers and how they can do it in several different ways. Ugh... I have a couple friends like that and I just can't stand near them when they start talking about formulas and stuff.

So yeah... I think "smart people" are worse to talk to then video game geeks, unless those geeks are so obsessed with the games (because then they kinda make it there whole life and it is hard to talk to them due to their fanaticism with whatever game they are addicted to).

Then I should warn you to never have a conversation about language and language development with me. I'd be lumped in with "smart people" as you describe them.

Really, there is nothing "smart" about us. We jsut enjoy studying and want to be helpful to others who dont know. Our only goal is to try to teach something to someone; to share our knowledge and hope someone gains an interest in something new.

Well. I don't hate people who are "smart". I just don't like it when my friends start talking about calculus formulas or whatever they are talking about. It just bugs me a little, especially when I don't like math at all and that it is all way over my head. lol.


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Posted: Nov 20 2006, 02:25 AM


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O'reilly is a mouthpiece, but that's why he has an audience.

He's biased, we see this with most of the suits his age, they can't relate so suddenly it's demonism and needs to be excorsized.

This is commonplace.


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QUOTE ([DeltaEta] @ Nov 18 2006, 04:27 PM)
Pffft. O'Reilly.

double pffft and a glop of spit!


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