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DarkKabuto
Posted: May 30 2009, 08:20 PM


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I got my brother's PSP 2000 recently, but this is one PSP my brother WILL TRULY desire, amongst others (PS3, RE5).

PSP Go. By Kotaku

Love it so far, but will it be a long time for it to be released? You can delve more onto it, Kotaku has more links in this news.
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Shinobi Phoenix
Posted: May 30 2009, 08:47 PM


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QUOTE (DarkKabuto @ May 30 2009, 10:20 PM)
I got my brother's PSP 2000 recently, but this is one PSP my brother WILL TRULY desire, amongst others (PS3, RE5).

PSP Go. By Kotaku

Love it so far, but will it be a long time for it to be released? You can delve more onto it, Kotaku has more links in this news.

Old news, been discussed everyone and MANY ARE WHOLLY AGAINST IT, MYSELF INCLUDED.


This isn't like the DSi losing the GBA slot, something that only works for people who really insist on thinking GBA is still a viable platform that they are still using and if you are, you were probably playing most GBA games on emulator anyway (like myself).



This is making all of your STILL NEW UMD's worthless. Not much point in getting it if you were already a PSP owner. It's really only for new adopters. Unless Sony will let you download the games you own for free SINCE YOU BOUGHT THEM FAIR AND SQUARE, it's a fail. Keep or upgrade to the PSP-3000 and wait for the 4000.



Not to mention... this is really ONLY for people who have regular and normal access to wifi and disposable income, since you are basically re-buying your games again, games which were already mostly ports. Without wifi or that PC USB cable, it's a plastic brick with pretty colors.


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Also... I'm pretty upset this has 16 gig of space... when Sony doesn't even MAKE a 16 gb Memory Stick Duo for the REST of the real PSP users OR Sony PRODUCT users in general...

...and if they did... it would be over 100 bucks... just like the 8 gb is 70 fucking bucks of my goddamn money.



You know what 60 bucks gets me with Nintendo DSi... 32... that THIRTY-TWO GIGABYTES WORTH in 2 16gb SD CARDS!! (or 80 for a full 32 in one SD)



FUCK YOU SONY! FUCK YOU IN YOUR TINY FLAT WHITE WHORING MONEY-HUNGRY ASS!!!


*will be forever pissed about the price of Memory Stick Duo's*
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Ion
Posted: May 31 2009, 10:30 AM


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Don't care about PSP myself that much, but...

1. Design reminds me of old GB, with buttons at bottom instead of side...
2. And I thought it'll be full touchscreen initially (before I see the sliding button)
3. No UMD = Fail...wait, UMD is failure by itself...
4. Did I mention that the thing is hideous and ugly?

Don't even care about price...
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Shinobi Phoenix
Posted: Oct 21 2009, 11:28 AM


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QUOTE (Ion @ May 31 2009, 12:30 PM)
Don't care about PSP myself that much, but...

1. Design reminds me of old GB, with buttons at bottom instead of side...
2. And I thought it'll be full touchscreen initially (before I see the sliding button)
3. No UMD = Fail...wait, UMD is failure by itself...
4. Did I mention that the thing is hideous and ugly?

Don't even care about price...

And guess what?

PSP Go Bombs Completely, PSP2 in 2010?

Not surprised right?


8000 out of 25000?!!


I wonder what the US Sales were. I showed a lot of my German Engineer friends the specs and... to be it mildly: they were absolutely disgusted with it.

http://gizmodo.com/5367059/pspgo-review-ps...you-havent-been


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Battery Life

In a mixture of movie playback, gaming and general interface navigation, the PSPgo ran for 4 hours and 47 minutes at max brightness with Wi-Fi on. That's about the same battery life of the last few PSPs. Unfortunately, those who liked to use an extended or extra battery with the PSP will find that more difficult on the Go as its battery is positioned inside the screw-off case. Plus, iFixit has confirmed that removing the battery actually voids your warranty.


A system built and uses Flash memory, so no moving parts for loading games or accessing data and YET... you can't give us a BETTER battery? What is essentially just an SSD and my PSP-1000 has a better life (depending on how spin-heavy the UMD is).



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Software

Honestly, the hardware is only half of what holds the PSPgo back from being something better. It's the aging PSP software full of unfixed nagging points, like that Wi-Fi doesn't connect automatically upon startup, typing is still done through that horrible phone-dial-like interface and lack of support for background downloading from the PS Store.

Yes, while the PS3 allows you to download games and movies while performing other tasks, the PSPgo is stuck monotasking during downloads. Oh, and if your PSP dies before you've finished that 1.6GB movie download—which takes a while over the Go's slow 802.1b Wi-Fi—you get to start all over. (Also, while it's nice of Sony to keep compression levels low, SD quality movies on portables need smaller files sizes than this for people to watch movies on the go.)


A download-ONLY system and you give us what is essentially outdated 9 year old bandwidth capabilities? I'm pretty sure my phone can download faster.
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Ion
Posted: Oct 21 2009, 04:01 PM


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Shinobi: I would say it's not the design and anything. The price is just well...YUCK...

I mean, at $249, it just goes nowhere...(I can buy a Wii for the same price...wait, Wii is now $199). Well, PSP-3000 is $50 cheaper, can use UMD (Means old game that people brought WAY back in the day of PSP-1000 can still be played without extra cost), and otherwise, same thing as a PSP Go in terms of hardware aspect.

And 802.11b for $249...that's as bad as XBox360's $99 Wireless Adapter...but at least Xbox's one can collect to 802.11g (Still the most common...)

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A download-ONLY system and you give us what is essentially outdated 9 year old bandwidth capabilities? I'm pretty sure my phone can download faster.


802.11a still goes for 11Mbps, which is faster than HSDPA 7.2Mbps (The one that iPhone 3Gs use...the fastest 3G speed that's widely deployed...I'm not sure whether any 14.4 Mbps or 28.8 Mbps has been deployed yet, and no, I don't count WiMAX (The first 4G technology to market) as widely deployed). But then, when DSi has 802.11g (DS Lite only up to 11b...but DS Lite is 3 years old), and you don't? Consider that the amount of stuff people will download onto their PSP Go is larger than DSi (No statistic, but I mean, given that it has 16GB of storage...).

But consider that you HAVE to download stuff onto your PSP Go...compare to most other using Wi-Fi for getting additional stuff, updating firmware, etc., 802.11b just doesn't cut it. Does 11g really takes up THAT much more power or anything? Wait, forgot about its shitty battery life. (And no, 802.11g doesn't takes up any more power than 11b as far as I know, and 11g controller are like how much? $2/each at most?).

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A system built and uses Flash memory, so no moving parts for loading games or accessing data and YET... you can't give us a BETTER battery? What is essentially just an SSD and my PSP-1000 has a better life (depending on how spin-heavy the UMD is).


The screen, no matter what, always takes up the most battery (Given that the test is run under maximum brightness, I'm not surprised about 4 hr and 47 mins). But then, when you cost $50 more, and still used old TFT LCD (At least give us something like OLED...don't tell me it's too expensive, I already have to pay $50 more).
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Shinobi Phoenix
Posted: Oct 23 2009, 02:53 AM


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Something else makes me hate this thing (and possibly the PSP2 if they try this Download-Only stuff again). Something people should be bringing up.



Imports and niche games.




When a company (particularly ones like Sony who have religiously refused certain games to be brought to foreign soil, let alone European even if it's just a remake of a game we had) decide not to bring a game to your country where ever it is, at least you had the OPTION of buying the import.

You could buy from E-Bay because someone will always do it as there is a market for it.

Same with online stores.


Are you going to pay a higher cost than you would if it had been brought? OF COURSE. That's how it works as someone else had to pay a higher cost to obtain the game from Japan or Europe.


My point is, that was an EQUALIZER. It was something against the companies say "Fuck you, consumer. We'll tell you what's popular and we'll tell you what to buy." And your answer was "FUCK YOU RIGHT BACK, I'll buy it myself from Japan or Europe. I'll learn Japanese if I have to or get the guide from GameFAQs."



However, on PSN, that equalizer ends (short of going to Japan or Europe to download the game off their servers). You have to get what they give that country as usual. They won't give you the option. There's no shipping or production cost to be had once the game is on server and it won't sit on a shelf not getting bought, it's just data. Yet, they don't think it's a better idea to have games that people really want on the server where they will GLADLY buy direct and download and play when available?


Now, I don't know if it's Sony or Konami's decision, but NO Tag Force game is on PSN. Not 1, not 2 and not even 3 (which means the only way to get that in English or any other non-Japanese language is to buy it from Europe as a UMD). Now it remains to be seen if Tag Force 4 will on PSN. I would think so as Sony claimed all new games would be on there for PSP-GO users AND normal PSP users. Of course, what they REALLY said was all "popular" new games.


I'm shocked to find Shin Megumi Tensei: Persona on there, as Altus release games are usually really short release and the PSN version might be my only way right now to still get it... outside of SECOND-HAND STORES LIKE GAMESTOP THAT PEOPLE SO HATE BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING UNGRATEFUL CHILDREN WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND OR WANT TO UNDERSTAND BASIC ECONOMICS UNLESS IT COMES IN MMORPG FORMAT.

Either way, yes, the only way I'll get the UMD is to import it (ironically) from America.



So yes, I'm against the "Download-Only" philosophy. Not until they can be trusted to provide what everyone wants, not just "the cool kids" or the "emo kids who like their Final Fantasy."
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Ion
Posted: Oct 23 2009, 10:04 AM


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Shinobi: You're complaining about not being able to get certain games...it's not even exactly a new thing.

Heard of Region Lock? Sony is already great that they DON'T have one on PS3 and PSP, but other than that, Wii has it (Which is simply stupid...American Wii game are just piece of shit, and you wonder why I bother hacking my Wii, not b/c I'm being cheap and not respecting copyright and download games, but simply wanting to play Japanese game that are of higher quality). 360 has it too, but doesn't concern me as much as 360 is aimed for American market anyway...

Yes, you can argue that not many people would play many of the Japanese-exclusive (sometimes released in places like HK / Singapore / etc.) in America, but doesn't mean you HAVE to go ahead, region lock the games, not being able to download various titles on download store, etc. There ARE people out there that want to play them, and in the end, nothing they can do other than buy a Japanese version of the console (Stupid, since it can't play most American game), or hack it (Not necessarily legal).
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Shinobi Phoenix
Posted: Oct 23 2009, 01:43 PM


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QUOTE (Ion @ Oct 23 2009, 12:04 PM)
Shinobi: You're complaining about not being able to get certain games...it's not even exactly a new thing.

Heard of Region Lock? Sony is already great that they DON'T have one on PS3 and PSP, but other than that, Wii has it (Which is simply stupid...American Wii game are just piece of shit, and you wonder why I bother hacking my Wii, not b/c I'm being cheap and not respecting copyright and download games, but simply wanting to play Japanese game that are of higher quality). 360 has it too, but doesn't concern me as much as 360 is aimed for American market anyway...

Yes, you can argue that not many people would play many of the Japanese-exclusive (sometimes released in places like HK / Singapore / etc.) in America, but doesn't mean you HAVE to go ahead, region lock the games, not being able to download various titles on download store, etc. There ARE people out there that want to play them, and in the end, nothing they can do other than buy a Japanese version of the console (Stupid, since it can't play most American game), or hack it (Not necessarily legal).

I'm not complaining about not getting certain games, I'm complaining about having the only option we have against it taken away.

Release that under download-only... IT IS AUTOMATICALLY region-coded even on portable systems. Something that has never been done until the PSP and DSi. You can't access those servers without being there and some games I notice check if you have an American, European or Japanese PSP (I was just as shocked as you'll be).


In other words, it's the iTunes/Hulu problem.
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Shinobi Phoenix
Posted: Nov 2 2009, 11:36 AM


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http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/11/02/p...mally-in-japan/


Though, in all honesty, I've been rethinking this whole download-only thing (ever since I found out they do in fact have Shin Megumi Tensei: Persona as well as Tag Force 4 coming to PSN) as far as the complaint the retailers have against it.


If Amazon can, WILL and HAVE ALREADY bought redeem codes same way you have to have copies of a game at your store and sell them at their own prices to make them available to the public RATHER than having to buy from Sony, why can't OTHER retailers do the same?


In fact, isn't it possible to sell the redeem code for an old game as a discount (ie: used game) and something of a same thing as selling the used game itself minus needing shelf space?


I would think it would be possible for Gamestop and others to do the same as Amazon and have redeem codes they buy from Sony (no different from when they have to for physical game) and sell those codes at their own prices and thus Sony (as proven already) is not exclusive retailers, just the exclusive distributor?
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Posted: Nov 2 2009, 03:27 PM


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The only thing is...no more used game if the trend continues. Which, for the most part, would. It does save cost (putting out all those disc...), is more green (All those plastic packaging...), much more convenient (On the click, no need to go to a store, get the game, come back to home, or buy it online and wait for a hard copy to ship).

About the only thing bad about PSP Go? Existing game = trash, period. PC have downloadable only soft for a LONG time, but PC can still read DVD/CD/BD/whatever. And "technical reason", ahh, of course, how exactly one is able to proof that they "own" the game. There's always "ship them in, along with your account information, we'll add those things to your account". But that takes time, resources (Mainly b/c I don't see an automated way of doing it), etc.

And the last thing? The machine is just nothing special. Unless you don't already own a PSP, then suddenly want to get one b/c PSP Go seems good, or you're those hardcore Sony fan that just collect each version of all PS Consoles (Or die-hard video game collector), I just don't see why, if you already have a, let say, PSP 3000, would buy this thing...

And let me not repeat the price again...
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Posted: Nov 2 2009, 03:45 PM


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QUOTE (Ion @ Nov 2 2009, 03:27 PM)
The only thing is...no more used game if the trend continues. Which, for the most part, would. It does save cost (putting out all those disc...), is more green (All those plastic packaging...), much more convenient (On the click, no need to go to a store, get the game, come back to home, or buy it online and wait for a hard copy to ship).

Hey now, don't give them the idea to furthur reinforce the cultural idea that gamers are misanthropic hermits.
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