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Shinobi Phoenix - July 22, 2008 09:52 PM (GMT)
"Court Affirms Online Content Law Unconstitutional" Article on New York Times

EDIT: Please read below


It should be understood that as much as some young people might try to avoid it or at least think it doesn't affect them, there a lot of politics and corporate drama out there that DIRECTLY affect our lives.

Gaming, anime, events, products. Always someone out there who either wants a piece or wants to stop you from stopping their ability to steal the piece that wasn't there and they'll use what they can to do it from you.

Society (pressures and interactions), Politics (law), or Religion (faith and ethics), particularly those last two, ESPECIALLY the last one.


Look at Barack Obama, a lot of his popularity has been generated from the younger generation, including my own. While Clinton and Obama have their appeals, Obama had something going for him that Clinton fucked herself over on.

The rather large percentage of gamers who VOTE. It's not good to be the candidate who has been known to try and push "soccer mom bills" against the gamer nation and then still expect them to vote for you (and this is coming from a Clinton supporter). Obama is the only candidate who has been pushing for INDIVIDUAL and PERSONAL responsibility. The idea that parents take care of your own kids and learn with them and discover for yourself if you don't like the video games they play, not try to force government to create laws that INFRINGE directly on other people's live for years to come because you want to be lazy or let the government raise your children when it's convenient. Parents now-a-days seem honestly less attached to their children (mostly unplanned) and more less interested in actually HAVING to raise them as oppose to coach them in a direction and wish them the best. I'm not saying that should completely control their child's life, but they should be there to actually help and gulde them and understand them and why they like something or need to play a violent video game. NOT BLAME THE VIDEO GAME when their child fucks up.

But I'll stop here because I could go on for a long time on things like this and I'd rather not, I'd rather watch other people rant on and read what they really think of it all.


Anyway, that's what this thread is now.

Incidentally, there is a site dedicated to just this sort of thing:

http://www.gamepolitics.com/

I STRONGLY suggest bookmarking it and reading it on your own time. That stuff does matter because it will come up to change something in our lives, even our gaming lives.

Reizuma - July 22, 2008 10:36 PM (GMT)
/thumbsup.

People need to grow up and take charge with their children.

Not force everyone else to fall within some stupid terms.

Nicole_Sera - July 22, 2008 10:38 PM (GMT)
Its good to see the courts not side with OMG THE CHILDREN for once.
kids are not retarded but there parents seem to be when it comes to raising them.

a-hole w/ 9000atk - July 23, 2008 12:21 AM (GMT)
I'll be damned - Congress DOES contain intelligent people..... o_O

I love it when 'soccer moms' lose; and yet, they're more stubborn than George W. Bush......they just don't fucking get it.
QUOTE (Nicole)
kids are not retarded but there parents seem to be when it comes to raising them.

Quoted for absolute truth.

SynjoDeonecros - July 25, 2008 09:42 PM (GMT)
...wait, I heard a few years ago that the Supreme court not only struck it down, but BARRED anyone from trying to appeal their decision, so why the hell is this back up in court again? Damn stupid courts not upholding their decisions...

Shinobi Phoenix - July 29, 2008 07:40 PM (GMT)
Three Things:

First: Please read the first post again if you have already. It has been changed.



Second: Something quite amusing...

Sen. Ted Stevens Indicted, Charged With Making False Statements in Corruption Probe

I may be linking to the article as told by "corrupt as hell" Fox News, but this is really happening. Other outlets are reporting on it as well. For those who might not know him by name, this is Mr. "Series of Tubes" himself. Really, he was just another arm for corporations who want to use the internet for their means to make money, never mind the net was literally built up by USERS not corporations who had to cater to us to get in anyway in the first place.

Now the only tube he’ll have to worry about is protecting his butthole from “Big Bubba.”

Let’s see you keep that tube from getting clogged up, motherfucker!




Third: As long as I was talking about Gamepolitics, this reminded me of something:

Could Game-bashing Mitt Romney Be McCain's VP Choice?

As if McCain was bad enough, I still prefer McCain over those other assholes. ESPECIALLY crossdressing emo freak 9-11 parrot Giuliani (did I mention I'm from NY area?) and gay-game-and Mexican-bashing Mormon zealot Rommey. Last thing we need is both any of them together in the White House signing laws that stab us in the eyes and put money in corporate and right wing pockets under the guise of "morals and values" and on the backs of normal Americans who just want to have a good time and not be interfered with.

Need a refresher?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFyDWjATbok

a-hole w/ 9000atk - July 30, 2008 02:59 AM (GMT)
The site has been bookmarked.

I was going for Obama anyway, but now I'm sold. ^_^ Now I just hope to hell that he lives up to this. And now, I have a reason to despise Romney. :mad: I can't see the YouTube video for reasons I'm sure everyone realizes by now, but I get the gist of it. Also, I'm not quite sure what Ted Stevens did regarding the Internet, but, judging by his 'moniker', I have a pretty good idea.

There's probably a lot of political shit I haven't caught up on.

Omega Heartless - July 30, 2008 05:01 AM (GMT)
umm wow o.O i also hate rommey, he doesn't understand that what he wants to do isn't what is going to happen, hell if anything i'd rather come up to him and tell him exactly what the hell needs to be done, like keeping kids from watchign said shows/movies or playing games for which they aren't to actually allowed to play because of the rating system which is planted on the box.... but then again he doesn't under stand(painfully obvious) that it isn't the kids who are the problem but it's infact that parents who sit on their ass all fucking day with their thumbs past their rims just letting their kids play or watch whatever they want to, it's pretty obvious that the schools shootings aren't caused by the media(and if it was, blame the kid not the game/movie)

i'm omega heartless...and i approve this message *thumbs up*

redbaronii - July 30, 2008 02:03 PM (GMT)
Mitt, come on...Mitt...good that I'm going Obama unless there is a SUPER good independent candidate (yes...I do vote independent)

Really, I always support Obama's platform on "it's not the school's fault that the kids do not learn, parents have to take responsibility" (it's same thing applying to TV/games). The parents in this day just don't give a shit about what their kids do. I'm not saying that parents should super-control their kids...but they SHOULD know what the hell is going on.

Kids are not dumb...hell, I wonder how some 13 y.o. girls can figure out a way to travel half way around US to met with their Myspace "friends"...but then the parents/politician blame Myspace, not the kids or themselves and act all innocent. (Same thing with games, TVs, everything!)

Parenting is not easy, but not trying to even do that is just plain lazy.

Shinobi Phoenix - July 30, 2008 03:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (redbaronii @ Jul 30 2008, 10:03 AM)
Kids are not dumb...hell, I wonder how some 13 y.o. girls can figure out a way to travel half way around US to met with their Myspace "friends"...but then the parents/politician blame Myspace, not the kids or themselves and act all innocent.  (Same thing with games, TVs, everything!)

You know!!!

You can't drive at 13, and someone is signing off on the ticket (since you do have to be of age to buy a ticket online anyway).

How retarded does a parent have to be? Plus, any good parent calls ahead to check if the child really will be at "Cassie's house." Yeah, it's a dick move from the child's POV (it isn't but they wanted to do something else and you got in the way), but you are really thinking about their safety and it's not really that much of dick thing to do.

I guess all those predators have money to burn to buy gift tickets or putting them up on a Greyhound bus (and the parent doesn't notice their child packed a large backpack and is missing for several days). If you do have money like that, you can afford a prostitute instead and it wouldn't get you in as much trouble (keywords: AS MUCH).


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Anyway, I thought this was of interest as well.

Australian Politician Courts the Gamer Vote

You're going to say "I'm American, what does this have to do with me?" I'll say "nothing and everything." I would think by now DMC/DMH members know we're not all Americans here by a long shot and incidentally there are some Aussies and people who have moved or plan to move to Aussieland *cough*Heartless*cough*

People who keep up on censorship know that if you thought America was bad, it's nothing to Australia. The country that PRE-banned Fallout 3, before E3 footage was even out (they're fighting it of course). So people fighting for change there is welcome.

Now, why should this matter to non-Australians and especially Americans?

Two well-known facts:

- Australia has been emulating and idolizing America for the latter part of a generation at least, like a nagging little brother, so a lot of their actions are because we did it first.

- Countries always look at the laws of other countries when they want to get something new done or something pushed. They play the "this country did it" card as much as the "this court case already pushed in favor of this, so we have to." Hence the term "overturning" when a old court decision has been pushed aside for one that would negate it. Just like how people are still trying to overturn "Roe v. Wade" when it comes to abortion.

Anyway, this sort of thing will be ignored or even swamped by people who wants to push negative laws around, but the people who want will recognize it and try to bring it up in our cases. Someone like Barack Obama should likely capitalize on it if he wants to keep our trust.

(As a funny note: I almost typed Barack "Ojama" instead of Barack Obama. Damn you, Yu-Gi-Oh!!!)



and for you Britain players (that would include Oliver, Lynx, and Heartless):
U.K. Govt. to Tighten Game Ratings, Favors BBFC over PEGI

That's pretty shitty.



And if you haven't seen this already, here it is for LOLZ:

Jack Thompson Has New URL

For LOLZ - 2nd Edition:
Clueless Aussie Politicians on R Ratings, Game Violence, Fallout 3, Rape in Games

Danieru Lynx - July 30, 2008 04:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shinobi Phoenix @ Jul 30 2008, 04:51 PM)
and for you Britain players (that would include Oliver, Lynx, and Heartless):
U.K. Govt. to Tighten Game Ratings, Favors BBFC over PEGI

That's pretty shitty.

I'm baffled by how retarded the reasoning behind these decisions is.

'Violent video games have a negative effect on children, so let's restrict the age ratings of these games even further.'

Take into account what's being addressed here - the effects of video games on children. This assumes that these children are already in possession of such a game, as otherwise it obviously couldn't possibly have an effect on them. And how does a child get their sticky little hands on such a game? Simple - they ask Mummy and Daddy for it. In which case, what the fuck is tightening the age ratings on these games going to do?!

It won't stop Mummy and Daddy from buying these games for their children, so what difference does it make?

Parents need to be more responsible with regards to what they expose their children to, and I reckon that even retailers should do something about this. I was in the supermarket before, and I remember seeing one of those signs which says that it's illegal for someone to purchase alcohol on behalf of a minor. Why don't they just enforce such a rule for video games too? Surely that would help to some degree.

That's just my penny on the matter (as opposed to 'two cents' - DID U C WOT I DID THAR? LOL).

Shinobi Phoenix - July 30, 2008 05:44 PM (GMT)
I agree with the previous statement completely.


But anyway, this one sort of hurts because it's the sort of things other places like Youtube, Veoh and Dailymotion are likely to try next:

Video Hosting Site Bans Game Play Footage as Not "Creative Expression"


incidentally, I'm one of those guys who uploads gameplay footage or spoiler endings on my Youtube as well.

Danieru Lynx - July 30, 2008 06:35 PM (GMT)
All I can do is make the obvious statement of 'who are they to judge what constitutes 'creative expression'?'

Balls to 'em.

a-hole w/ 9000atk - July 31, 2008 12:00 AM (GMT)
Good lord, Australia's government is LITTERED with soccer moms!!!! Except for the one Senator, they were all a bunch of retards. I mean, it sounds like the U.K. isn't doing too well, either (and I feel sorry for the 3 of you here), but Australia needs to be removed of this crap BADLY. I happen to know an Australian guy on NG, and I had no idea that he was living in that deep a pile of shit over there.

Jack Thompson........I'm surprised I don't know that name; I currently live in Florida, and you'd think I'd know about this moron by now. I'm not surprised, though, as Florida's government is loaded with morons. My advice: DO NOT MOVE HERE, AND IF YOU'RE HERE ALREADY, GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN.

I've never even heard of Vimeo - maybe that's why.

SearchmanDS - July 31, 2008 12:35 AM (GMT)
You seriously don't know who Jack Thompson was(though that might be a blessing considering how much of a giant annoying troll he is)? Ok, that's it. There is going to be mandatory web surfing for news in your future young man :penguin_6:.

Shinobi Phoenix - August 7, 2008 04:55 AM (GMT)

a-hole w/ 9000atk - August 7, 2008 06:13 AM (GMT)
One knows something is REALLY FUCKING WRONG when the head of ESA has MORE SENSE THAN LEGISLATORS. God, some people are so fucking stubborn, it makes me sick! (Esp. since I'm a native Californian, so it might be pissing me off a little more than the rest of you guys. :penguin_8: )

CALIFORNIAN RAGE!!!!!!!

Shinobi Phoenix - August 7, 2008 01:35 PM (GMT)
Kotaku: Christians Getting Serious About Gaming

Though some of the points are still ripe with bias, I suggest reading the whole thing.


Someone in the comments actually said what I was thinking anyway.

QUOTE ( EmeraldDragon @ 09:00 AM,08/05/08)
It's not that I wholy disagree with them, I think they ahve some fair points. But nothing irritates me faster then when people equate a certain religon with being a good person/parent/etc. Being a good parent, teaching you children restrain, manners, and to be productive memebers of socity have no baring on whether I worship God, Allah, or a blue plastic cockroach.


Typos and bad grammar aside, it was a nice statement.


Plus, I don't see what they're talking about with that not-playing outside crap. First off, where do they live? I see children outside playing all the time whether they have games or not; you just get older and realize people are or become assholes and you prefer to deal with them on a "when I have to" basis.

Second: Why are they acting like that's a virtue, or more to the point, why are they playing it up to be one? Is this the 1960s? I suppose we should all pretend things were better back then, maybe the gays can go back to hiding, Mexicans can stop picking our fruit and blacks can go to be called "colored" or maybe back to being like "3/5" of a person.

"I play outside (or my kid plays outside more), therefore I am a better, morally upstanding person."

Fuck you. The world only goes forward, douchebag.

That has little to with games and more to do with the fact the world has changed so much, it's become better to move the playground to the virtual world, you're still playing with someone now-a-days. Maybe lazy parenting is to blame for a lot, but at least you know the kid is safe at home when he's absorbed in Halo 3 playing with his friends anyway, not out getting snatched up like stupid Timmy who called gaming stupid (fuck Timmy, fall in a well and die).

redbaronii - August 7, 2008 02:03 PM (GMT)
Just my comment on the 2 articles Shinobi posted...

1. California

The legislature in Cal is just purely crazy. They ARE the same people, after all, to think of all sort of crazy laws...

2. Christian?

First that comment says what I'm about to say.

Second about playing outside: well, it's not like I don't see people outside anymore. Less people? Of course! It's not in the 60s where there is the baby boom!!

Third about games: It's not like Christians don't have the right to play GTA. People have their mind on what's real and what's not, what's right and what's wrong. If they are going to shoot someone, they will anyway no matter it's just "fun like I did it in GTA" or purely "just wanting the shoot people for the sake of it".

And while there is the correlation on video games bring violence, there is the backward trend of the "violent" type prefer to play more violent video games...

a-hole w/ 9000atk - August 7, 2008 08:44 PM (GMT)
I love that comment from Emerald Dragon; lol, blue plastic cockroach. :P

But back to being serious: There's a difference between zoning out (which I do WITHOUT a video game being the cause), and being unable to differ fantasy from reality; parents need to realize that. Also, something that the writer of the article said:
QUOTE (Mike Rahey (Kotaku))
.......If anything, the mainstream media - who often target video games themselves - are to blame, scaring parents out of their minds with special reports about the dangers their children face crossing the street every day.

This is why I despise both religion & the media; they often screw up people's minds to the point that they act this stupid.

Another comment by Combichristoffersen that drives the point that Shinobi just made:
QUOTE
Nowadays you have kids screaming at each other over Xbox Live instead of having kids screaming at each other outside your window.

Parents also need to realize this, as well - their children are STILL playing with their friends, but they're just doing it differently, and there's absolutely no problem with that.

Shinobi Phoenix - August 16, 2008 03:54 PM (GMT)
A few things I thought were interesting, even if some are rather obvious.


Militant Atheists Upset Over Spore, Says Will Wright
Duh. Yet, I don't think Intelligent Design Game would go over very well with them either. A game where you play God and create new life and control the world and make people worship and believe you.

OH WAIT... we already have SEVERAL games like that. Ever played Populous? Or Black and White? And never mind the fact that technically since you're God, Spore is really a game that emphasizes BOTH evolution and creation since you are creating creatures at will and helping gear their evolution to build up their lives and civilization. Both ideas at the same time... what a unique concept. They just don't know you exist, I guess that's what the Atheists don't like different from those other games.


Actually, It's Good News: 10% of GTA IV Buyers Under 17, Says Nielsen


Thai Official: Prosecute Game Makers for Copycat Violence


And something Heartless will ABSOLUTELY "LOVE" :
UK Watchdog Group Calls for Ban on Upcoming Madworld

Didn't the UK get No More Heroes and barely edited at that? Madworld is the same sort of thing, purposely over the top to avoid any realism and you can focus on the fun. These guys are literally bitching over it without even actually seeing it fully.

a-hole w/ 9000atk - August 16, 2008 10:12 PM (GMT)
Militant Atheists Upset Over Spore, Says Will Wright: Geez, if it's not religion that starts a stink, then it's the OPPOSITE......and the guy who made the game is also an atheist like those who are complaining!?

On a side-note, up until now, I didn't know what kind of game Spore was; I hear the name often, but didn't know much else.

Actually, It's Good News: 10% of GTA IV Buyers Under 17, Says Nielsen: Well, anything to shut up soccermoms for a while.....

Thai Official: Prosecute Game Makers for Copycat Violence: Damn, even GONDORA's hometurf isn't safe from the retard epidemic....

UK Watchdog Group Calls for Ban on Upcoming Madworld: So what? Does it really matter what game system it's made on?

Heartless, Danieru, and Oliver - move to the US & away from these idiots.......we also have cookies.

Shinobi Phoenix - August 20, 2008 07:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
A controversial new book fingers video games, television, and digital communications as culprits in the author's indictment of modern youth culture.

The book is The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future (Or, Don't Trust Anyone Under 30) by Emory University professor Mark Bauerlein. Canada.com has a lengthy interview with the author:

"Something insidious is happening inside their heads. Young Americans today are no more learned or skilful than their predecessors, no more knowledgeable, fluent, up-to-date, or inquisitive, except in the materials of youth culture."



I suppose he wrote a controversial book because it would jump his sales. Asshole.

a-hole w/ 9000atk - August 20, 2008 10:06 PM (GMT)
Four-Year-Old's GTA Birthday Cake - Is It a Lie?: Best. Cake. Ever.

UK Game Publishers Get Medieval on File-Sharers: If the game is still in circulation, then it's understandable. Otherwise, it's a giant, steaming wad of bullshit as usual.

Is Pirate System Available Through Amazon?: The FBI seems to be taking logic lessons from Konami & UDE.....unless they plain-out don't realize Amazon's still marketing them.

Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation": Anyone care to join me in an angry mob with torches & pitchforks? Seriously, dude, shut the fuck up while you still can; are we all supposed to be like you? Go fuck yourself, because people YOUR AGE are also just as, if not more, stupid as what you claim our generation is. Judge lest ye be judged, dickbag.

TheAmazingMrQ - August 21, 2008 12:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shinobi Phoenix @ Aug 20 2008, 12:11 PM)


And something to piss everyone off:
Author: Gamers Part of "Dumbest Generation"

QUOTE
A controversial new book fingers video games, television, and digital communications as culprits in the author's indictment of modern youth culture.

The book is The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future (Or, Don't Trust Anyone Under 30) by Emory University professor Mark Bauerlein. Canada.com has a lengthy interview with the author:

"Something insidious is happening inside their heads. Young Americans today are no more learned or skilful than their predecessors, no more knowledgeable, fluent, up-to-date, or inquisitive, except in the materials of youth culture."



I suppose he wrote a controversial book because it would jump his sales. Asshole.

Actually, Rap Music, Budget cuts in our schools, the fact that discipline and hard work are considered taboo nowadays, the fact that new focuses on trivia rather then important events, and forced memes in our culture (Read: High School Musical, et al.) are to blame for the fact that our kids are so goddamned stupid (They really are)

But thanks for playing. Cunt.

Ion - August 21, 2008 02:15 PM (GMT)
Meh...kids are stupid b/c American Education System is a joke...

I mean, you put some slight pressure on the kids, the parents complain. The kids not performing? Blame the teacher. Hard-working? Yeah...right...

And Digital stupidfied people? Not like you stupid baby boomers don't fucking sneak out, go to all those rock and roll concert, hitchhike everywhere, etc. are any better. It's the trend of the time, if you're "outdated", blame no one but yourself b/c well, you're pretty much as stupid as we are.

P.S. This stupid ideal is everywhere anyway, in Japan there's all these Otaku hate out of nowhere, in "western" world, it's those idiotic lawyers / professors / whatever that waste money doing all these researches that doesn't even shows a shit. I'm talking about all you congress people that try to waste taxpayer money by enacting all those stupid laws when, well, you can fucking fund shit like education with the same money.

Shinobi Phoenix - August 21, 2008 02:41 PM (GMT)
I think the main thing that would make people angry is the idea that "you shouldn't trust anyone under 30," which suggest people 30 and over are smarter and automatically superior.

As if people over 30 don't do the most retarded things already. Difference is...

While someone under 30 can do something stupid, it mostly only hurts themselves.

Someone over 30 who already is built up and has power or authority does something stupid, they get people killed... or START WARS OVER A MISTAKE THEY MADE AND GET PEOPLE KILLED BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO GET OUT WITHOUT LOOKING EVEN MORE STUPID SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A COMPROMISE, THEY STUBBORNLY STAY THERE AND KEEP US UNDER-30s WHO TRUSTED THEM DYING FOR THEIR MISTAKE AND ARROGANCE UNDER THEY FIND A WAY TO SAVE FACE.

Yeah, over-30s are better huh?

redbaronii - August 21, 2008 04:05 PM (GMT)
I don't know where the number 30 comes from...researches that waste our money?

If they would blame games, internet, TV...I would blame the parents. Hey, they ARE suppose to be trusted, right? They SHOULD know not to let the kids watch 6 hrs. of TV everyday and go on Myspace when they are 12 and meet some 50 y.o. predafile.

Don't blame High School Musical (although Disney school related movies are bad influences!), don't blame the culture...they are just being kids, and now-a-days people just think fun=bad...hey, that's the way the kids would have FUN now-a-days...and deal with it, losers!

Shinobi Phoenix - August 22, 2008 06:08 PM (GMT)
A friend of mine in Austria informed me of this:

It is still European, but it's the sort of thing that will spread.

The link however is in German, so either ask Shriek or use the translator of your choice, I'm not in the mood to have to do it all right now.


http://futurezone.orf.at/it/stories/302120/

The short translated version is the MPAA and RIAA, starting in Europe and the major countries there (such as UK, Germany and Austria) are trying to force lawmakers to make downloading of ANY KIND not only illegal, but a "3 strikes" punishable offense.


On top of that, this has apparently already been made law in France.

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...icle4165519.ece

You can be sure they're lobbying (meaning PAYING OFF POLITICIANS) to make this the same here.

Money interests are taking things insanely too far now and trying to spread it globally. We literally built the internet and they're trying to bring it crashing down because we won't let them have a piece of the pie and it will if something like this isn't stopped. Don't just grumble or bitch about it, politicians need to be written, correct people need to be elected, petitions needs to be made.


I don't have to tell you the sort of impact this would have if these are made law on a global scale. Every company would jump in on this to boot. It would be the literal end of the internet as we know it. No anime that wasn't dub or any show you like that is unavailable in your home country, no game or anime music or music in general that wasn't available on something you have to pay for limited by ONLY what they carry or choose to carry. If they're aDon't think for a second this couldn't be passed. It's ELECTION YEAR.


I'll be on the lookout for more on it.


I'm looking for appropriate English versions as we speak.

http://technologyexpert.blogspot.com/2008/...ownloading.html

QUOTE
Internet users could be blocked from lawful activities by mandatory spyware, in the interests of their security. The right to use free software for internet access would therefore not be assured anymore. The neutrality of the Internet is also directly attacked, as is the principle that technical intermediaries have no obligation to prior surveillance of contents. Other amendments will de facto enable administrative authorities to obligate ISPs to work with content producers and rights-holders' private police, including the sending of intimidating messages, with no judicial or regulatory oversight.

Omega Heartless - August 22, 2008 08:48 PM (GMT)
umm wow, that's...again, complete bullshit... i could fully see that there are people in the government that would rather retard the youth today and then take away the only things that they find "fun" now because they've become too sucked in by annoying parents who want nothing more than to see the very thing that current culture was built on to be destroyed because THEY don't want ot do their jobs ....

i honestly don't see any real erason to do this kind of things , taking such extremes against the youths of the world just because they aren't being taught well enough and are doing things that everyone else (and i assure you, even people in other companies are probably downloading stuff from the internet"illegally" as well) and their dogs are doing the same thing...

well...bleh...bleh to them and their thumb-up-ass ideology....if i wanted my way, i'd shove that arm up all the way up their ass then right out of their mouth.....PRICKS!

a-hole w/ 9000atk - August 22, 2008 11:59 PM (GMT)
THEY SHALL NOT PASS!!!!!! Bullshit! Now they've gone too far. Are there any online petitions being made? If so, I WILL SIGN MY FULL NAME TO EVERY ONE OF THEM!

Ion - August 23, 2008 04:40 PM (GMT)
On the law: Although all companies wants money (I mean, why else you start a business), but it's absurd that as a so-call "western" society, they're doing nothing but trying to peek into what others are doing. Hypocritical? I mean, they complain about other countries (i.e. Middle East, China, etc.) censoring their internet, and guess what they're doing now?

And it does nothing other than wasting us taxpayers even more money on bullshit for the interest of those big companies. For god sake, those grumpy old people need to change with time instead of using their old damn thinking. And those parents? They don't want their kids do some stuff just b/c there's no way they can be as good. Generation Gap? Maybe. But too bad this generation always lose just b/c of the sheer number of baby boomers that are now controlling each and every government in the world.

Shinobi Phoenix - August 27, 2008 08:07 AM (GMT)
Fine.

Let's get at the pink elephant of the room now. This has been discussed since Saturday and it's time to bring this here.

Report: Obama VP Choice Biden is Anti-consumer on Tech Issues

You do remember just a few posts ago I brought up about the MPAA and RIAA lobbying and buying people?

While I like Biden on certain issues and I do believe he is not a bad guy and on a lot of things he knows his stuff especially internationally, his stance on tech issues, ESPECIALLY THE INTERNET, is very much counterproductive to Obama and his internet greenroots stance as well as being dangerously infringing on our world as geeks and gamers. He's very much a dud on tech and because that, it was easy to get him in the pocket of the MPAA and the RIAA and he was one of the strongest for pushing those new laws and bills (such as 3 Strikes in countries like France and the rest of UK).

And strangely, you still have to vote for him since we still want Obama and Biden over McCain and Rommey (who is not only his most likely choice, but one we've already discussed here, Mr Blames Society's Ills and All Violent Crime on Video Games and Movies).


Biden (under the "coaching" of the MPAA) also wants to spend 1 BILLION on a new department to monitor the Internet and P2P especially directly. So quite literally, your tax dollars will be going to ensure you lose your rights and privileges (in part or fully) because of your hobbies and interests. I knew this Obama thing couldn't have been perfect, now I can see what I had already feared. The youth of the country feeling backstabbed and turning more apathetic to politics and issues than ever before and the other half will likely start a retaliation unlike any the world has every seen.

I hate to think what 4Chan and Anonymous and all the other groups like them have been discussing and thinking about.

a-hole w/ 9000atk - August 27, 2008 05:24 PM (GMT)
Well, fuck........there always has to be SOMETHING, doesn't there? >_< I hope Obama can shake off the hold the MPAA has on this guy, for our sakes....

Shinobi Phoenix - August 29, 2008 05:45 AM (GMT)
I'd like to bring up something that I find NOTORIOUSLY COWARDLY.

"Video Games Made Me Do It" - Articles Series
Read as many as you can, it's been going on for a while. It's probably one of the most disgustingly offensive things you can read about.


While I don't have the mental capacity to discuss it right now due to pressure and stress in my own life, I'd like to say that this is something else I was fearing. People literally using politicians to their advantage now by blaming video games on their crimes to get off. Committing a crime with the VERY intention of siting video games as the reason as a form of "insanity" or "I wasn't in control." Make everyone else's life worse because politicians are idiots by adding to it more so you can do what you want.


Maybe we should just have a perfect storm and have some software, movie or music pirate blame video games for their crimes and we can have ESA, MPAA, RIAA and anyone else who wants on one huge lawsuit to end them all. Wouldn't that be nice?


Btw-- GTA MADE ME WRITE THIS POST!!


I'll end this on a more positive note though. Something to laugh at.

Guitar Hero Knockoff Features Christian Music

TheAmazingMrQ - August 30, 2008 01:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shinobi Phoenix @ Aug 28 2008, 10:45 PM)
I'd like to bring up something that I find NOTORIOUSLY COWARDLY.

"Video Games Made Me Do It" - Articles Series
Read as many as you can, it's been going on for a while. It's probably one of the most disgustingly offensive things you can read about.


While I don't have the mental capacity to discuss it right now due to pressure and stress in my own life, I'd like to say that this is something else I was fearing. People literally using politicians to their advantage now by blaming video games on their crimes to get off. Committing a crime with the VERY intention of siting video games as the reason as a form of "insanity" or "I wasn't in control." Make everyone else's life worse because politicians are idiots by adding to it more so you can do what you want.


Maybe we should just have a perfect storm and have some software, movie or music pirate blame video games for their crimes and we can have ESA, MPAA, RIAA and anyone else who wants on one huge lawsuit to end them all. Wouldn't that be nice?


Btw-- GTA MADE ME WRITE THIS POST!!


I'll end this on a more positive note though. Something to laugh at.

Guitar Hero Knockoff Features Christian Music

I'm actually optimistic about this one, as it's the Emperor's new scapegoat. Remember back in the 60's and 70's, the "God/Satan Made Me Do It" Defense ran rampant until somebody said "Enough is enough" and proved that the people using it were full of shit, and it's only a matter of time before some DA who's heard enough does the same. There's already data proving that videogames REDUCE violence in people, most notably the infamous Prison studies.

Also, I can't decide whethier that Christian Guitar Hero is Epic Fail, or Epic Lulz (As I am the only person on the planet who actively hates the Guitar Hero Games)

Shinobi Phoenix - August 30, 2008 02:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TheAmazingMrQ @ Aug 30 2008, 09:08 AM)
I'm actually optimistic about this one, as it's the Emperor's new scapegoat. Remember back in the 60's and 70's, the "God/Satan Made Me Do It" Defense ran rampant until somebody said "Enough is enough" and proved that the people using it were full of shit, and it's only a matter of time before some DA who's heard enough does the same. There's already data proving that videogames REDUCE violence in people, most notably the infamous Prison studies.

Well, as I've said to people privately, this whole series of things reminds me of the plot to Scream 2.

Not to give spoilers (except that movie came out in 1997, if you haven't seen it after almost 12 years, BOO-HOO), but that was what the killer was intending. Violence was already being blamed on movies and television at that time and era (you remember the good old 1990s, right?). So in that movie the killer fully planned to get caught after he kill whoever he wanted so that he could blame movies and television for his crime, and push things so that the Religious Right would pay his legal fee and the whole case would force people to decide on whether or not it was all bullshit or otherwise.


Not quite some righteous DA, but it was his plan.


Personally, I'm just glad people stopped pretending they were Kira before they started to attack anime.


Death Note made me write that part.

SearchmanDS - September 17, 2008 09:18 PM (GMT)
I have some interesting reads for you.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/g...-posts-e-m.html

http://pastebin.com/f652c44fb

So what will cause the bigger ruckus, the fact that Anon hacked her email or she was using private email to conduct state business(which is illegal), place your bets now folks. Also, I leave you with a rather amusing quote from the topic I found this in

QUOTE
hurrrrr.

The reason why it got 'hacked'?

Her password reset question was 'what is your zip code?'.

Shinobi Phoenix - September 23, 2008 11:30 PM (GMT)
Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy Treaty

Obama Favored in Xbox Live Poll

French Lad Torches Cars, GTA IV Blamed, But...

Key thing to remember: "If you said, "Wait, the PC version of GTA IV doesn't even ship until November 21st in Europe," go to the head of the class."


Digital Distribution CEO: Publishers Are Scared of DRM-less Games

a-hole w/ 9000atk - September 24, 2008 12:22 AM (GMT)
Digital Rights Groups Go to Court Over Secret Anti-Piracy Treaty: Aww, how cute - they're trying to hide from us. DIDN'T WORK. HAH-HAH!!!

Obama Favored in Xbox Live Poll: Too bad that the glaring multi-account loophole kills the poll's credibility......

French Lad Torches Cars, GTA IV Blamed, But...: Do I smell a fabricated headline?

Digital Distribution CEO: Publishers Are Scared of DRM-less Games: It would help me if I knew what 'DRM' was....




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